Civic Si + S2000 -> Type R? Is it worth it with baby on the way?

Fast Type R · Oct 27, 2019

I have just sold my frs (2door) due to addition to family member. Never regret the 4dr type r that I bought last year which is so much more versatile

BrashSi · Oct 28, 2019

So I just got back from an S2000 group drive, S2KI's Boston Mountain Tour for those that care. I took my wife along for the ride and while the rain kept our speeds down, the event was about 5 hrs away. The ride there and back just was not very comfortable for her (first time on a roadtrip in the S2000). I talked to a guy who had a 2019 Type R and oddly enough he was saying he was thinking about trading it for a new Si, as he thinks that'd be a better daily. His wife too, had an EX-T, so that was kind of an odd coincidence. He said that the creature comforts of the Si are something that he misses not having on the Type R. Much like I lined out in my first post, the Type R gives up a bunch of creature comforts, but the biggest I think I'd miss would be the heated seats and possibly lane watch. Not enough to be deal breakers for me.

As of now, I'm still waiting to see what the new 2020s will have changed before I make any decisions. Anyone have any rumors if there are going to be multiple trims? I thought I had read that somewhere.

jasonjm · Oct 28, 2019

BrashSi said:
So I just got back from an S2000 group drive, S2KI's Boston Mountain Tour for those that care. I took my wife along for the ride and while the rain kept our speeds down, the event was about 5 hrs away. The ride there and back just was not very comfortable for her (first time on a roadtrip in the S2000). I talked to a guy who had a 2019 Type R and oddly enough he was saying he was thinking about trading it for a new Si, as he thinks that'd be a better daily. His wife too, had an EX-T, so that was kind of an odd coincidence. He said that the creature comforts of the Si are something that he misses not having on the Type R. Much like I lined out in my first post, the Type R gives up a bunch of creature comforts, but the biggest I think I'd miss would be the heated seats and possibly lane watch. Not enough to be deal breakers for me.

As of now, I'm still waiting to see what the new 2020s will have changed before I make any decisions. Anyone have any rumors if there are going to be multiple trims? I thought I had read that somewhere.

But compared to the S2000 I think the suspension in comfort mode on the R is more comfortable.

The R has high bolstered seats. They are more track focused than the S2K seats imo. Hence the suede. You should be able to put Si seats in the R. Might sit a tad higher (1-2 inches) but the wheel is full telescoping in the R unlike the S2K so you will be fine.

Drive an R on the same roads as your S2K, but also take into account the suspension age and degradation on the S2K.

Both my kids easily fall asleep in the R. Couldn’t do that with my S2K.

Design · Oct 28, 2019

Having now driven all three, and being a parent of young kids myself, I'd keep the Si/S2K hands down. The CTR is a very focused platform and clearly the best all-round performer of the bunch. But it can wear on passengers during longer trips (compared to the Si and Jeep). Part of that can be fixed with higher profile tires and keeping damper feedback on full soft. But there's no getting around cobblestone roads or small hwy deviations... you will feel them (albeit a little less) thanks to the beefier jounce bumpers and reduced shock/strut travel (compared to the Si). The S2K drives a little different from the CTR in that the shifter is MUCH more refined/engaging, and the chassis feedback is much more direct (thanks in part to its weight distro and RWD). The CTR's steering is a bit more like the Si - artificially weighted but precise.

In the end it's going to be a personal choice, and whether you can find a dealer/friend to let you test drive the CTR (or at least ride in one). From my perspective, it's the best all-round car. But like the S2K, the experience can be highly dependent on the daily mileage and roads traveled.

GL.

CivilciviC · Oct 28, 2019

What does the CTR lose in comparison to the Si?

Heated seats and sunroof?

The CTR being my daily, I was worried about no heated seats- being in Canada and all. In reality, I feel I don’t need them. Cars with leather seats NEED heated/cooled functions. Cloth seats are way more bearable in any kind of weather. You could even make it more bearable by adding a car starter and letting your car warm up a few minutes, on those really cold days.

Sunroof? I’ll take the weight savings over a sunroof these days. Back in my 92-93 Si days, the sunroof was a must. These days it’s less and less necessary, with cars becoming heavier and heavier. It’s an easy way to eliminate a couple hundred pounds.

I guess the Si also has the option of driver’s aids, doesn’t it? I suppose if you feel you need them, so be it. We somehow managed to drive for the last 100 years without all the sensors. I really wonder about the drivers who feel they need those systems. What the hell are they doing behind the wheel?

alexrawdriguez · Oct 29, 2019

Unless money is not an issue look into how expensive daycare, formula, diapers and having a kid can be before you make your decision. By me daycares on average run about 800-1000 monthly and that's not even including formula diapers or anything else.

wdrx02 · Oct 29, 2019

I no longer have the S, but in your shoes... I keep the S regardless.... As for getting the R... I don't see a need if you are mainly focused on kids... esp if you have a SI already. Is the SI a sedan? If so, no need for more sedans... now if you have money to spend, the garage to store and just want the R symbol - sure... why not go get one or a Type R badge

Either way, congrats on owning those nice cars! I keep the S2K though. Perhaps I am personalizing it, but being a former S2KI member/mod and owner. I know the S2000 is valued a bit more in the long run~

fiend busa · Oct 29, 2019

Design said:
Having now driven all three, and being a parent of young kids myself, I'd keep the Si/S2K hands down. The CTR is a very focused platform and clearly the best all-round performer of the bunch. But it can wear on passengers during longer trips (compared to the Si and Jeep). Part of that can be fixed with higher profile tires and keeping damper feedback on full soft. But there's no getting around cobblestone roads or small hwy deviations... you will feel them (albeit a little less) thanks to the beefier jounce bumpers and reduced shock/strut travel (compared to the Si). The S2K drives a little different from the CTR in that the shifter is MUCH more refined/engaging, and the chassis feedback is much more direct (thanks in part to its weight distro and RWD). The CTR's steering is a bit more like the Si - artificially weighted but precise.

In the end it's going to be a personal choice, and whether you can find a dealer/friend to let you test drive the CTR (or at least ride in one). From my perspective, it's the best all-round car. But like the S2K, the experience can be highly dependent on the daily mileage and roads traveled.

GL.

Fr I get so uncomfortable in the R after only about an hour because of the seats.

Getting out the car with items is a pain in the ass too lol

Ouhei · Oct 30, 2019

alexrawdriguez said:
Unless money is not an issue look into how expensive daycare, formula, diapers and having a kid can be before you make your decision. By me daycares on average run about 800-1000 monthly and that's not even including formula diapers or anything else.

Our daycare is $1450/mo, can't wait for the little guy to go to school lol

Iilac · Oct 30, 2019

I kept my S when I got the R. If it came down to having to get rid of one, I would not hesitate to get rid of the R.

wdrx02 · Oct 30, 2019

Iilac said:
I kept my S when I got the R. If it came down to having to get rid of one, I would not hesitate to get rid of the R.

Good man~

CivilciviC · Oct 30, 2019

fiend busa said:
Fr I get so uncomfortable in the R after only about an hour because of the seats.

Getting out the car with items is a pain in the ass too lol

Are you a bigger boy? I'm sincerely curious. I find the seats ultra comfy and I've heard that from a few people... But they were all pretty slim, myself included.

I could imagine the bolsters becoming uncomfortable if you're carrying extra weight around.

fiend busa · Oct 30, 2019

CivilciviC said:
Are you a bigger boy? I'm sincerely curious. I find the seats ultra comfy and I've heard that from a few people... But they were all pretty slim, myself included.

I could imagine the bolsters becoming uncomfortable if you're carrying extra weight around.

Im 6'4 and 159lbs - far from thicc boi looool

Pierito · Oct 30, 2019

Literally the opposite. You're sticc boi lol

dusdangers08 · Oct 30, 2019

Owning both an S2000 and 2019 Type R i would never give up my S2000 for the type R. As others have said already the S2000 is a special car and many that sell soon regret their decision, some end up buying another one. An SI will do everything a type R does as far as daily commuting and IMO 70ish% of what a type R does performance wise more so if modified. Congrats on the baby I'm sure you'll make the decision that best fits your needs

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