**UPDATE**** What I thought was a possible blown head gasket

Gotch said:

What calculation?

1.5L
Oil Capacity
Without filter: 3.4 quarts
With filter change: 3.7 quarts

2.0
Without filter: 4 quarts
With filter change: 4.4 quarts

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REBELXSi said:

How does one not know how much oil they use? You're more than likely either using 1qt bottles or a 5qt jug. It's blatantly obvious how much oil you use.

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Gruber said:

Maybe you thought the jug is 1 gallon = 4 qt like the other guy on the forum, and poured it all in. It was just last month - you should still have a quart of oil remaining in that jug but I guess you don't.

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SCOPESYS said:

AT the end of the day, what is the most important thing is the ACTUAL LEVEL, not the exact amount of oil you poured in. The numbers for the 1.5L & 2.0 are the Oil Capacities of the cars, not necessarily the exact amount that needs to be added during an oil change. They are a GUIDE as to how much oil to add.

You should do ( well, at least this is what I do, and I am somewhat OCD)

Add most of that oil initially, and then measure the oil level with the dipstick, after waiting a few minutes for the oil level in the crankcase to stabilize.
Then add a little bit more, and wait for it to stabilize, and measure again, until you get it to the MIN mark on the orange.
Then run the engine for a few minutes to distribute the oil. Turn off engine.
Wait a couple of minutes and measure oil level again.
Then go back to adding a little oil at a time, waiting for the level to stabilize, and measure again, until you get the level to the MAX FULL level on the dipstick.
Run the engine again, for a few minutes, then off, wait a few minutes, and measure again.
At this point in time, it should still read at the same MAX Fill level as it did earlier.

The next day, before starting the car, measure the oil level again.. It should still be at that same MAX FILL mark.

Why be so OCD and exacting. ?

My reason, is so that I know EXACTLY that I have re-filled to the MAX line mark, with repeatable accuracy.

Thereafter, if the level RISES over time, it must be doing so because of OD, and I now have a Precise indication of how much OD I am getting, because I know the EXACTLY accurate level that the car was filled with non Gas diluted New oil.

Of course, you Dealer tech, doing your oil change is not going to fill to such a precise level... If they did, you would not like the Bill for all the time !!!

But if you do it yourself, you should be able to afford the time to do it RIGHT, and get the satisfaction out of doing a good job RIGHT the 1st time.

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marauderguy said:

I'm not sure why you say 3.7 quarts as listed in the manual is a guide and not accurate. I have done 5 oil changes thus far and put in 3.6 to 3.7 every time and closed the hood. Check it the next day and its not exactly at the full mark nor do I need it to be. As in any car, there is a safe range between min and max and does not have to be exactly at the full mark. No need to be ocd especially on a vehicle where levels generally rise.

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JT Si said:

I don't live in a place or drive in a way I'm really worried or at risk for the oil level rising and oil dilution. After 4 quarts on the dot filled it right up to the top mark I'm going to dump 4 quarts in every time and call it a day.

I also drive it pretty hard and a little extra oil is good for that, both oil temps and maintaining oil pressure on corners.

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JT Si said:

I'm still confused even after reading your explanations. Accidentally going over 1/4 quart would not cause the symptoms you described, nor would it be very obvious to the dealer. You must have added over 1/2 quart extra, maybe even 1 quart or more and I don't believe you can just accidentally that much extra oil.

Despite the oil capacity being 3.7 quarts with oil filter, I added all 4 quarts of Amsoil and it brought it right to the top of the full mark and I had zero negative symptoms. I added almost 1/3 quart over and it wasn't too much.

You seriously must have added way, way too much but you won't own up to how much you overfilled.

Why? Do you really not know? Was it exacerbated by oil dilution? Cold weather, lots of short trips?

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Launcher said:

Um I mean I’ve been saying I might have done added extra if you read all my posts I mentioned it on almost every post even updating to what I am remembering.. I’ve owned up to it and accept that I had made a mistake.. Now from what I have left of oil in the jug I can tell you now more accurately it seems I may have added 1/4 to 1/2 quart of oil . Like I was saying before I added to the oil filter and I’m sure that’s where I messed up .. plus I do know it’s my second time doing the oil myself just that this time I did things differently and didn’t have everything all together so I had to go back and forth so my progress wasn’t as smooth as it should have been .. not a good idea for me to be grabbing tools or whatnot every minute cuz I’ll lose track.

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JT Si said:

And I'm telling you, you ain't having the problems you described with 1/4-1/2qt high. I deliberately overfill by almost 1/3 of a quart.

.... Unless you drive lots of short trips and it's been super cold and you've got rising oil level from dilution on top of your slight overfill.

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marauderguy said:

I'm not sure why you say 3.7 quarts as listed in the manual is a guide and not accurate. I have done 5 oil changes thus far and put in 3.6 to 3.7 every time and closed the hood. Check it the next day and its not exactly at the full mark nor do I need it to be. As in any car, there is a safe range between min and max and does not have to be exactly at the full mark. No need to be ocd especially on a vehicle where levels generally rise.

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SCOPESYS said:

You really are completely missing my point

The whole "suggested" point of setting the level accurately to a known point with the fresh oil, is so that you can monitor the effect of OD.

But you do what you want to do, just as I will do what I want to do, and at the end of the day, I hope we will both be happy with our own personal choices.

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SCOPESYS said:

You really are completely missing my point

The whole "suggested" point of setting the level accurately to a known point with the fresh oil, is so that you can monitor the effect of OD.

But you do what you want to do, just as I will do what I want to do, and at the end of the day, I hope we will both be happy with our own personal choices.

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scopesys said:

You really are completely missing my point

The whole "suggested" point of setting the level accurately to a known point with the fresh oil, is so that you can monitor the effect of OD.

But you do what you want to do, just as I will do what I want to do, and at the end of the day, I hope we will both be happy with our own personal choices.

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scopesys said:

You really are completely missing my point

The whole "suggested" point of setting the level accurately to a known point with the fresh oil, is so that you can monitor the effect of OD.

But you do what you want to do, just as I will do what I want to do, and at the end of the day, I hope we will both be happy with our own personal choices.

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I'm not missing the point at all. You are using the full mark as a reference point. I am using 2mm below the full mark as a reference point. Yours goes past the full mark and you have dilution. Mine reaches or goes past the full mark and I have dilution. I have repeatable accuracy as well. It just happens to be 2mm lower.

No difference.

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I just bet you now go back and edit your post