Curious on opinions of Type R prices (new and used)

OneSickFK8 · Oct 14, 2019

Topsportsman916 said:
OneSickFK8, are you saying that your trade in is what got you under MSRP? I bought my 2019 Type R on 7/20/19. I got the car for $700 under MSRP & with Taxes,Title, Tags it was $37,800 OTD . I didn't do a trade in.

In Florida, not sure of other states, my equity dropped the total price of what I had to pay taxes on. Saved me around $1100. It wasn't the only thing but needs to be stated to how I got it down to the $36k out the door. Without that I'd easily be at $37k and change.

Dipz · Oct 14, 2019

Surprised the nerds at Jalopnik didn't go full journalistic all over it by now.

RedGiant217 · Oct 14, 2019

Ducky said:
With virtually no changes. My MY19 got the filler cap, an LED on the parking brake and a volume knob.

Plus improved cup holders and, I believe, a light in the glove box.

aldo · Oct 14, 2019

Since the beginning of time the advertised prices for used cars are totally inflated prices by the used car salesman, they never get anywhere near the advertised price, these aren’t new cars, they’re used, previously loved, crashed, repaired, etc. You have to have your head examined if you think anyone is going to pay the advertised price on a used car. Cmon guys.

garoto · Oct 14, 2019

lksfstcars said:
1. While I agree 30K production is not a lot for a single car model -- the fact that the CTR is a niche vehicle should in theory keep prices a little more reasonable, i.e. a two year old CTR should be below the MSRP of a new one.

2. I personally think you all (myself very much included) are the problem and the perceived demand has given dealers unfair leverage -- the notion of supply and demand doesn't really jive when there are currently 334 new Type R's on Cars.com.

Again, my point was certainly not to complain, more of thought experiment. In the end, I will most likely pay more than I should and join all of those who are part of the problem!

Lol, okay on point number 2! You do realize it is not perceived demand? It is actual demand. This car is so good, more people want it who can afford it than there are cars. That keeps the prices high. There is no artificiality here. You’re not going to find “a killer deal” on a CTR. You’re not going to run into that $25k bargain. It simply won’t happen.

Those 334 new cars will sell. In the midst of thousands of buyers who can’t afford it and want to pay less and walk in trying to get a deal, there are 334 folks who will walk in and buy them.

For reference, there are 46,000+ New CR-V on cars.com that’s 0.7% CTR as there are CR-Vs.

Tev42 · Oct 15, 2019

OneSickFK8 said:
Here's a simple run down of buying a CTR. If you bought a CTR in 2017-2019(April-ish) most likely you paid too much. Even if it wasn't labeled ADM they put it somewhere. Fees, forced accessories purchase, etc. If you waited until around September or so. You at least have a chance to get a good deal. Which is still up to personal choice. I think MSRP + Destination is too much. I was lucky enough to get below MSRP OTD. However it was a process and involved a trade in with a sizeable amount of equity. Never call a dealer and talk prices. ALWAYS walk in and never buy on the first visit. There are rare situations that you can get a deal on the first trip but I don't try. Also play other dealers against each other. I had an appointment to look at a different CTR the following week after I had already walked from the dealer I purchased at. They called me the day before I was going to go to the other dealer. They said come here first and we'll get it done. Sure enough it worked.

^^^^ Play the dealers against each other. Two dealers within 30 mins of me had CTR's, one white one sonic grey. They both brought me offer statements with an ADM of 6k over. I immediately stood up both times and they said "woah woah woah let's not give up yet, lets talk about it" to which I would say I want this car but not for that price. I recognize the rarity of this vehicle but I also recognize how rare it is to find a potential buyer due to price and the target market not being able to afford it. Got the initial dealer down to $1500 over, took that letter to a different dealer, got them lower AND more value trade-in on my '13 Si. Visited each dealer one more time before deciding on Sonic Grey. Patience is key for not getting gouged on this car

willskiGT · Oct 15, 2019

OneSickFK8 said:
In Florida, not sure of other states, my equity dropped the total price of what I had to pay taxes on. Saved me around $1100. It wasn't the only thing but needs to be stated to how I got it down to the $36k out the door. Without that I'd easily be at $37k and change.

That doesn't really count then. You had originally claimed that you just really got a great deal. You have to exclude trade-in equity when discussing pricing for it to be apples to apples.

OneSickFK8 · Oct 15, 2019

willskiGT said:
That doesn't really count then. You had originally claimed that you just really got a great deal. You have to exclude trade-in equity when discussing pricing for it to be apples to apples.

The equity is NOT in any of my math. Tax savings were. You quoted me twice on two different threads and are completely wrong. Congratulations.

aldo · Oct 15, 2019

OneSickFK8 said:
The equity is NOT in any of my math. Tax savings were. You quoted me twice on two different threads and are completely wrong. Congratulations.

Including a tax break in your price isn’t comparing apples to apples either. Type R’s at sticker are all over the place.

willskiGT · Oct 15, 2019

OneSickFK8 said:
The equity is NOT in any of my math. Tax savings were. You quoted me twice on two different threads and are completely wrong. Congratulations.

You're the person who first posted about their incredible deal. Never gave any details of your sale other than a claimed OTD price. You don't want to post anything about the dealership or any transaction details because you're "afraid they will unwind the sale" (not possible) - now you begin to share more details of your "super secret" deal and it comes out that you had a trade-in and you paid lower taxes as a result.

While we're out here claiming whatever we want, I bought a Lamborghini Huracan last week for $150k under MSRP OTD. Hell, I insisted that they mark it up, because originally, they were going to pay ME to take it! It's a super secret deal though, not sharing the details, PM me if interested.

OneSickFK8 · Oct 15, 2019

aldo said:
Including a tax break in your price isn’t comparing apples to apples either. Type R’s at sticker are all over the place.

$37k OTD, which is without the tax savings, is below MSRP OTD. You following along?

OneSickFK8 · Oct 15, 2019

willskiGT said:
You're the person who first posted about their incredible deal. Never gave any details of your sale other than a claimed OTD price. You don't want to post anything about the dealership or any transaction details because you're "afraid they will unwind the sale" (not possible) - now you begin to share more details of your "super secret" deal and it comes out that you had a trade-in and you paid lower taxes as a result.

While we're out here claiming whatever we want, I bought a Lamborghini Huracan last week for $150k under MSRP OTD. Hell, I insisted that they mark it up, because originally, they were going to pay ME to take it! It's a super secret deal though, not sharing the details, PM me if interested.

Again you're in here spreading false information. The dealer can easily reverse the deal at their behest for a certain amount of time. I posted everything about the deal except the dealer name. Best of luck with your bs...

aldo · Oct 15, 2019

OneSickFK8 said:
$37k OTD, which is without the tax savings, is below MSRP OTD. You following along?

Not really because you full of shit

OneSickFK8 · Oct 15, 2019

aldo said:
Not really because you full of shit

Ohhh that salt. I guess that's what to expect from someone trolling a CTR forum while driving a Civic Si....Good luck!

aldo · Oct 15, 2019

OneSickFK8 said:
Ohhh that salt. I guess that's what to expect from someone trolling a CTR forum while driving a Civic Si....Good luck!

Florida man LOL

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