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Yes, that and the fact that common theme in all these threads is that the cars are tuned. Drivers differ, setups differ, but one thing is always constant.

Now we can argue semantics.. bad tune or too powerful of a tune, but i get the idea.
 

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Yes, that and the fact that common theme in all these threads is that the cars are tuned. Drivers differ, setups differ, but one thing is always constant.

Now we can argue semantics.. bad tune or too powerful of a tune, but i get the idea.
Literally every single one of these blown engine threads the car had been tuned....

So of course the reason why these engines blew had nothing to do with the tune. Thats mind blowing logic right there!

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The "loose nut behind the wheel" also contributes to the issue. From driver inputs to bad luck in choosing a tuner or failing to notice warning signs....
 


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The "loose nut behind the wheel" also contributes to the issue. From driver inputs to bad luck in choosing a tuner or failing to notice warning signs....
A lot of these blown engine threads the OP's stated there were no warning signs. Just driving along one day and BOOM. It was the most least expected thing to happen because they were just running a basemap and had zero issues up to that point.
 

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Literally every single one of these blown engine threads the car had been tuned....

So of course the reason why these engines blew had nothing to do with the tune. Thats mind blowing logic right there!

:rofl:
Yes, that and the fact that common theme in all these threads is that the cars are tuned. Drivers differ, setups differ, but one thing is always constant.

Now we can argue semantics.. bad tune or too powerful of a tune, but i get the idea.
The common denominator is that they are driving Honda Civic. The common denominator is that they have 1.5 turbo. The common denominator is that their motors saw abuse. What else is in common? They all right handed? Y'all are tiring...
 

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It boggles my mind that our two friends can't see that the majority of "tunes gone bad" were abused. We have thousands of tuned Civics at the board that run trouble free.

Do tunes add stress? Of course. But so does mis-shifting, constant launching, street racing, unmonitored bad fuel trims, anti-lag, E85 etc....

Contrary to what you two are spewing, the human factor does play a role here.
 

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It boggles my mind that our two friends can't see that the majority of "tunes gone bad" were abused. We have thousands of tuned Civics at the board that run trouble free.

Do tunes add stress? Of course. But so does mis-shifting, constant launching, street racing, unmonitored bad fuel trims, anti-lag, E85 etc....

Contrary to what you two are spewing, the human factor does play a role here.
Yep. Most of the blown engines had post history behind them documenting abuse. Questions about antilag, launching, and why the clutch slipped in gears 4-5-6. I can remember one person who even went as far as to start deleting and editing his past posts.
 

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It boggles my mind that our two friends can't see that the majority of "tunes gone bad" were abused. We have thousands of tuned Civics at the board that run trouble free.

Do tunes add stress? Of course. But so does mis-shifting, constant launching, street racing, unmonitored bad fuel trims, anti-lag, E85 etc....
Thousands of ppl on this site are tuned? lol ok bro.

Im done trying to convince you of anything. Keep living in your fantasy world while these engines keep popping.

BTW you're taking it way too personally. I love my Si. I love the way it handles, rides, looks, and I even love the engine's performance.

With that being said, I also know the reality is that the small 1.5 liter engine has a relatively weak bottom end - the rodes were not designed to handle additional boost. Its apparent with all the blown engine threads.

That is the reason I am running the stock equivalent basemap on my Hondata. Still having the peace of mind of staying reliable with factory boost limits, while taking advantage of the increased throttle response, rev hang delete, and NLS.
 


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You are missing the point.

You dont see driver mod blowing up non tuned civics. No one is saying that it is just the tune. But it doesn’t happen unless you tune. On top of that, what %ge of people tune to drive slow/conservative? I for sure didnt tune to then not push the car.
 

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You run into any cooling issues with the CSS block?
First startup is expected next week. So I guess I'll find out. But I can't imagine they'd not cover that in there testing. I also run meth injection so I get extra cooling from that.
 

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You are missing the point.

You dont see driver mod blowing up non tuned civics. No one is saying that it is just the tune. But it doesn’t happen unless you tune. On top of that, what %ge of people tune to drive slow/conservative? I for sure didnt tune to then not push the car.
I punch the throttle in the first 3 gears almost daily. But I also like getting 500 miles from a tank of gas.
 

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I will agree that a lot of the blown motor threads are because something was done that shouldn't be done. Bad tune, miss shift, full E85, ect
 

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Thousands of ppl on this site are tuned? lol ok bro.

Im done trying to convince you of anything. Keep living in your fantasy world while these engines keep popping.

BTW you're taking it way too personally. I love my Si. I love the way it handles, rides, looks, and I even love the engine's performance.

With that being said, I also know the reality is that the small 1.5 liter engine has a relatively weak bottom end - the rodes were not designed to handle additional boost. Its apparent with all the blown engine threads.

That is the reason I am running the stock equivalent basemap on my Hondata. Still having the peace of mind of staying reliable with factory boost limits, while taking advantage of the increased throttle response, rev hang delete, and NLS.
The guy in this thread had a bad tune and he raced on it for months, this specific blown engine does not make it apparent that the car can’t handle more boost. I’m only talking about this specific instance. As far as the other blown engine threads there does seem to be a lot of fishy things with them but its not really possible to fully investigate and find out whether they did obvious abuse. I’m not saying that our little 1.5 liter economy engines should be doubling up on torque or that they can handle that kind of power, I am not a tuner or mechanic or engine builder so that is not for me to say. Simply noting what I’ve seen on these forums
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