Any reason to upgrade to 2020 SI

Looking at the list of enhancements of the mid-cycle change, I do not think of any reason to change my 2018 SI to a 2020 SI.
What do you guys think?

mis3 said:

Looking at the list of enhancements of the mid-cycle change, I do not think of any reason to change my 2018 SI to a 2020 SI.
What do you guys think?

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No it would be a terrible bad financial decision
Wait until the next gen with potentially more changes

Probably worth it if you really want Honda Sensing. I do not, so I'm happy with what I've got.

Drake said:

Probably worth it if you really want Honda Sensing. I do not, so I'm happy with what I've got.

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Ill drive my own car, thanks

If going from a 2017 or 2018, then yes. I wouldn't do it if you already have a 2019.

I went from a 2017 to a 2019. In my case it wasn't so bad because I had very little negative equity in my 2017.

mis3 said:

Looking at the list of enhancements of the mid-cycle change, I do not think of any reason to change my 2018 SI to a 2020 SI.
What do you guys think?

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No, unless you really dig the new fake vents, wheels, sensing, and headlights. Since you've a 2018, you're more likely on the upgrade path for the next-gen around end of 2021.

No. /thread

I don't get the want for Honda Sensing. Does people today really need tech assist to drive safely?

I don't like my Si telling me how to drive her.

The only thing I’d want from sensing is blind spot monitoring and the 2020 Civics don’t even get that.

pinhead66 said:

The only thing I’d want from sensing is blind spot monitoring and the 2020 Civics don’t even get that.

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No unless it costed you like a G to swap out a lease or something like that. Otherwise the next gen that might be 10x better "should" be out in a cpl yrs. I just leased a 2019 w the option to buy at a good price at the end. Before I signed, I asked the guy if there will be any differences. He said none. I explained to him when I got my 15 Si they completely redesigned the civic a couple months later. I didn't want to get a new car only to miss out on the new chit. 2-3 weeks after picking up the 19 the refresh was in all the car mags smh. I like almost all the changes. Especially the new safety features, LEDs and gear ratio.

I'm kind of curious about how the lowered final drive ratio effects the feel of the acceleration. I'm thinking that for the price of the sales tax and title cost, we could have the new ratio retrofitted into our cars. The same with the LED headlights. Except I have mixed feelings about them.

repeet said:

I'm kind of curious about how the lowered final drive ratio effects the feel of the acceleration. I'm thinking that for the price of the sales tax and title cost, we could have the new ratio retrofitted into our cars. The same with the LED headlights. Except I have mixed feelings about them.

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I'm not one to complain about a well thought out gearbox, but first and second gear are already pretty short gears. Occasionally I run into situations where I wish they were taller, but that's always more for convenience than fun driving. I imagine with the shorter final drive, it will make everyday driving around town just a little bit less convenient.

It's always when I'm driving around after a cold start and I need to get moving. Being slow on the throttle plus slow shifting with a cold gearbox plus having to shift to 4th to drive 35 mph just makes for a slow, road rage inducing journey.

I am of the opinion people should be more thoughtful and deliberate when they drive, so I typically never react to anyone that feels like riding my ass for this slow process. But when I have to turn I get 'em good with my bright ass LED taillights, right in the retinas.

In any case. I imagine this would be just a little bit worse on the 2020.

I don’t know, tight right turns like the ones in my neighborhood, etc could use a shorter 2nd gear. There are a lot of times that I’m turning in 2nd at 1,500 RPM and I’m worried I’m lugging the thing. But shifting in to first seems extreme and awkward. Keeping my speed up and turning faster seems borderline inappropriate with passengers or with kids out playing in the neighborhood. I’m not sure 6% would really solve this, however.

Sorry that the gear ratios bug you. It's all about what you get used to, and like. I don't find first and second all that short. Well, maybe a little, but I'm willing to make it even shorter if I can get a more positive launch from my Si. Once launched, I'm not in the first couple of gears any longer than it takes to shift out of them.

Next summer I'm planning on installing a Single Mass Flywheel. Lighter than the stock of course. That should free up some of the torque and horsepower that is now being used to overcome the bloated dual mass flywheel. Having better leverage at launch would be even better.

I ran a light flywheel on a Mustang I had in the past and everyday driving required a lot more effort. I think this ‘lil 1.5L is better for all that rotational inertia on a normal launch.