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Just to offer fellow Hondata Flashpro owners:

I am now offering my custom end-user Hondata Flashpro tune file I have developed on my daily driven 2018 Civic Si for those who would be interested.

Testing has been being done for +25,000 miles and counting.

This is not a "max power tune" .

All factory stock equipped car (including original clutch) with the only modifications being an aftermarket intake.

This is also not a full e-tune service, as I am not a Hondata Dealer.

What it is: another base map option developed from real world use and testing.

The focus of this map is DRIVE-ABILITY/RELIABILITY with smooth low end transitioning to strong mid-upper rpm power carried all the way to rev limit.

My primary efforts have been to eliminate the extreme surging of power below 3500 rpm that comes from using most of the provided base-maps. I wanted this map to be as close to a "jack of all trades" tune as I could make it while still using the stock turbo with an emphasis on top end power. Meaning, I wanted my car to be able to auto cross, daily drive, drag race and commute with no fuss.

Feature List:
-Completely Custom Boost Map Targeting
-Switchable Boost Targets via Sport Mode (stock-like targeting when not in sport mode below 4000 RPM)
-Boost Target max of 23.2 (ACTUAL MAP PRESSURE PEAK IS 22.7) Psi in Sport Mode
-Boost Target of 21 Psi in Non-sport Mode
-Custom Torque Target Tables
-No Lift to Shift active
-Custom Boost by Gear Table active
-Timing Advance adjusted
-WOT Fuel Target adjusted
-WOT/Open Loop switch point adjusted
-Lean Best Torque fuel table adjusted
-Hondata Flashpro Traction Control active and slip percentage adjusted
-Rev Hang Disabled/Fuel Overrun Cut-Off adjusted
-Knock Airflow Limit Table adjusted
-Live Air Fuel Ratio readout (feature of Flashpro)
-Live Launch RPM Adjustability (feature of Flashpro)
-Idle RPM increased (optional)
-Start in Sport mode (optional)
-Cooling Fan engagement switch points/speed adjusted

If you have a Mishimoto intake: I will also include the calibrated AFM table specific to this intake (as this is the one I use).

I will offer data-log reviewing along with AFM adjustments/feature adjustments to finely calibrate any name brand intake you may be using included with this (maximum of 10 revisions).

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Screenshots of the data highlighting:

Knock counts and k control (both never move).

Boost command and manifold pressure match perfectly.

Timing advance is 2-3 degrees increasing with rpm as it should.

AFR Command and AFR are nearly identical with 11.4 target.

Even with the high-ish intake temps as it was 90* and humid out.

This is a 1st through 3rd (till almost redline) wot pull.

Cars trap speed is 97 mph to 98 mph currently in the quarter mile (only engine mods are the Mishimoto intake and this tune). I plan on going back after making some minor tweaks once the weather cools off.
 
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Screen shot again from today while in drive through on my lunch break highlighting fuel trims.
 
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I have thrown a bit more at this map on my personal car with some E20 mix, another degree or two of timing, bumped the boost limit a couple psi, 25psi max in 1st/2nd gear, 23psi in 3rd gear, 21 in 4th and 17psi max in 5th/6th.

The boost actually lowered itself 2 psi when Im not in sport mode (only needing 19psi to meet the torque command).

This car is absolutely shredding.

Story time!

Yesterday I was cruising and data logging in some awesome weather we were having.

Caught a red light where I was the lead car in the fast lane.

I glance in the mirror and notice a new/newer Coyote 5.0 is behind me.

Completely open road with 2 lanes for us is staring me in the face.

Im feeling a bit like the kid at school with the bully standing in line behind me at lunch clenching his fists....

I take off normal but give it a blip right before I shift into 2nd just to fish a little....he bites. I had just completed the shift to second gear when I see his nose jump for the slow lane to pass me "aggressively".

He was already thinking what I was.

We both donkey kick the gas to the floor.

I just happen to frequently drive around with my lane watch camera on so I had him stuck in my dash screen.

I had already decided I was gonna do whatever I needed to in order to keep him right there.

I run through second with the summer only tires wailing with the traction control light blinking; as I see him wag the tail just a touch (could tell by how he was managing the car he was a decent driver- or maybe the nannies were helping him *shrug*).
His front end gets to about my passenger quarter panel while I no lift shifted into third.

Full boost and full timing hits with no traction issues and I pull his front bumper back to my rear bumper through the gear.

No lift shift into fourth thinking "uh oh Im going to lose a couple psi" because of boost by gear.
Didnt make much difference as it still held him off until he aborted.

I about fell over laughing knowing good and well he was wondering how in world that just happened (while I was thinking that shouldnt have just happened lol).

Had we stayed in it he would have probably caught and passed around 110-120mph from my guesstimate, who knows and who cares.

I love playing underdog.

These cars LOVE ethanol.

Im on borrowed time with this stock clutch solely cause of the way 4500+ rpm is pulling (no slipping and feels great still @ 25k miles though so we will see)


Cliff notes: 25mph kick till he gave up around 100mph and exited stage right on a side street. Kept his front bumper at my back bumper through all of 2nd gear, all of 3rd gear, and near half of 4th gear. (I wish I had video of it- picture a jack rabbit running for its life with a cheetah chasing it)
 
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Some mixed driving last night over about 120 miles including the entire interstate 275 loop surrounding Cincinnati Ohio which also goes through Kentucky hills and Indiana flats.
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I am interested in the Cam and CamEX advance. I see it shows zero degrees for the cam, which does not see right to me if you were in 3rd at 68MPH at 23" MAP. What am I missing?

Is it possible to show a graph of the CAM and CamEX degrees advance on this run?

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I am interested in the Cam and CamEX advance. I see it shows zero degrees for the cam, which does not see right to me if you were in 3rd at 68MPH at 23" MAP. What am I missing?

Is it possible to show a graph of the CAM and CamEX degrees advance on this run?

Thanks!

Charlie
CAM+CAMCMD is the intake cam angle EXCAM+EXCAMCMD is the exhaust cam angle. You merged these within your question. What doesnt seem right about it?
 
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Intake and exhaust VTC changes aren't supported in FlashPro for the L15, so I'm not sure why it's even being talked about.
 

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Thanks, OP, for your informative posts on tuning our platform and some of the more technical aspects (way over my head, tbh). Hopefully, we can learn to become more comfortable and knowledgeable with tuning our Civics. I appreciate the fact that you're willing to share your knowledge with the rest of the community. Thanks!
 
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Thanks, OP, for your informative posts on tuning our platform and some of the more technical aspects (way over my head, tbh). Hopefully, we can learn to become more comfortable and knowledgeable with tuning our Civics. I appreciate the fact that you're willing to share your knowledge with the rest of the community. Thanks!
No problem at all. I appreciate that. Wish I had all the answers.
 


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CAM+CAMCMD is the intake cam angle EXCAM+EXCAMCMD is the exhaust cam angle. You merged these within your question. What doesnt seem right about it?
Poor choice of words on my part, sorry,. I was thinking, and may be I am wrong, that based on your conditions that there would be more advance on the intake. I see it at zero. But may be zero is perfect. I was also interested to know if it was possible to show a graph of the intake and exhaust cam angles through a run up. Hope that makes more sense.
 
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As Derek stated the cam angles are not "manipulate-able" tables. They should be ideal under whatever scenario because the ecu is trying to meet the other "commands". (boost and torque primarily in this example)

I will try to get you a plot for the cam angles though and post it.
 

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As Derek stated the cam angles are not "manipulate-able" tables. They should be ideal under whatever scenario because the ecu is trying to meet the other "commands". (boost and torque primarily in this example)

I will try to get you a plot for the cam angles though and post it.
Thank you. Do you know if the cam angle tables adjustable for other engines like the K20C1 or K20C4? If this is too far OT I apologize and will create another thread.

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Thank you. Do you know if the cam angle tables adjustable for other engines like the K20C1 or K20C4? If this is too far OT I apologize and will create another thread.

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I do not but d-rob Im certain would know. I would assume so.
 

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Thank you. Do you know if the cam angle tables adjustable for other engines like the K20C1 or K20C4? If this is too far OT I apologize and will create another thread.

Thanks
The Bosch ECU in the FK8 supports editing of the VTC for intake and exhaust in both Hondata and KTuner.

As it stands right now, neither software allows the public to access VTC tables on the L15 Civics/Accords, nor K20C Accords using the Keihin ECU's.
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