BlownSI
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- First Name
- Vince
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- Sep 15, 2019
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- Location
- Tucson, Arizona
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- 2017 Civic SI, 2014 Yamaha R6
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Hello,
So I purchased a 2017 Civic SI at the end of 2017 and have had no issues with it. Gets 35-38 average mpg and the engine was still as responsive as it was the day I purchased it. I have done zero modifications. No tunes and no performance parts or accessories. I dont race it. The most I do is the occasional speed up on the on ramp to the freeway. I have been up to date on my maintinance. It has 61,000 miles on it but I live in Tucson Arizona and I drive up to Phoenix Arizona alot to help my family. So most of my miles are highway miles.
Despite the smooth sailing, I was surprised out of the blue when my civic engine sputtered and shut down. This was also right after I did an oil change at the Honda dealer. Like an hour after. Towed it back to the dealer and they confirm the engine is shot. They have not yet explained why it failed, but claim it needs a new block, head, and other parts. Since I am just out of warrenty they are going to offer to replace the broken parts and labor and cover 90% of the cost. I am expected to pay $500 to $900.
Now this seems fair, except I have 2 complaints, and they are big ones:
1. The Honda reliablity has failed me. I come from humble beginnings and am a young professional in Engineering and needed a vehicle that would last at least 5 years, maybe 150,000 miles. I dont have a safety net of family to fall on and I am ready to start a family of my own. I have been let down by their engineering.
2. I doubt the future reliability of the 1.5L turbo engine, even after they fix it. The repiars come with a 30,000 mile warrenty, so I should be covered for a year or two, but what if it fails at 35,000 miles due to the same unkown issue?
So its a known fact now that this engine has issues in cold climates due to the direct injection which causes seeping of fuel past the pistons into the oil until the engine can warm up. Canada Honda for instance has extended the warrenty for 6 years to all new civic owners for this reason. I have also read that some owners in northern states in the US are also getting an extension on the warrenty. China wont even sell Hondas anymore.
Now Tucson/Phoenix are not cold climates, but it does get around 30 F in winter. I expressed my concerns about the engines reliability and the rep told me that my car is one of tens of thousands, we arent going to do a recall for one car. I asked if they would be willing to extend the warrenty and they told me I would have to go through Honda Customer Service.
Now I understand the practicallity on Hondas part to deal with the few premature engine failures that may happen, but this begs the following questions:
1. What is Honda doing to garentee their work for the few suckers who treat their Civic right and still have their engines blow?
2. How "few" of us are actually experiencing premature engine failures?
I know I racket up miles pretty quickly so I am not sure if other drivers are nearing the 60k warrenty, but if you are how confident are you that your civic will last you the next 60k. What about the 200k reputation Honda had? Is their reliability in the past?
What do you guys suggest I do?
So I purchased a 2017 Civic SI at the end of 2017 and have had no issues with it. Gets 35-38 average mpg and the engine was still as responsive as it was the day I purchased it. I have done zero modifications. No tunes and no performance parts or accessories. I dont race it. The most I do is the occasional speed up on the on ramp to the freeway. I have been up to date on my maintinance. It has 61,000 miles on it but I live in Tucson Arizona and I drive up to Phoenix Arizona alot to help my family. So most of my miles are highway miles.
Despite the smooth sailing, I was surprised out of the blue when my civic engine sputtered and shut down. This was also right after I did an oil change at the Honda dealer. Like an hour after. Towed it back to the dealer and they confirm the engine is shot. They have not yet explained why it failed, but claim it needs a new block, head, and other parts. Since I am just out of warrenty they are going to offer to replace the broken parts and labor and cover 90% of the cost. I am expected to pay $500 to $900.
Now this seems fair, except I have 2 complaints, and they are big ones:
1. The Honda reliablity has failed me. I come from humble beginnings and am a young professional in Engineering and needed a vehicle that would last at least 5 years, maybe 150,000 miles. I dont have a safety net of family to fall on and I am ready to start a family of my own. I have been let down by their engineering.
2. I doubt the future reliability of the 1.5L turbo engine, even after they fix it. The repiars come with a 30,000 mile warrenty, so I should be covered for a year or two, but what if it fails at 35,000 miles due to the same unkown issue?
So its a known fact now that this engine has issues in cold climates due to the direct injection which causes seeping of fuel past the pistons into the oil until the engine can warm up. Canada Honda for instance has extended the warrenty for 6 years to all new civic owners for this reason. I have also read that some owners in northern states in the US are also getting an extension on the warrenty. China wont even sell Hondas anymore.
Now Tucson/Phoenix are not cold climates, but it does get around 30 F in winter. I expressed my concerns about the engines reliability and the rep told me that my car is one of tens of thousands, we arent going to do a recall for one car. I asked if they would be willing to extend the warrenty and they told me I would have to go through Honda Customer Service.
Now I understand the practicallity on Hondas part to deal with the few premature engine failures that may happen, but this begs the following questions:
1. What is Honda doing to garentee their work for the few suckers who treat their Civic right and still have their engines blow?
2. How "few" of us are actually experiencing premature engine failures?
I know I racket up miles pretty quickly so I am not sure if other drivers are nearing the 60k warrenty, but if you are how confident are you that your civic will last you the next 60k. What about the 200k reputation Honda had? Is their reliability in the past?
What do you guys suggest I do?
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