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Has anyone had success in using the Longitude G sensor to gauge what your changes do for acceleration. I totally forgot to be paying attention to that until recently in data logs. Going through different ones I can see how each other performs compared to the other. It jumps around like crazy so I have to rapidly click play to kind of get a clearer picture (that or slow down playback) in 4th at around 98mph G's peak at .40 while in 3rd around 70mph they peak at .56. Stock isn't it .52 or so, maybe in 2nd gear?

I think the highest figure i've seen was .65 or so but maybe that was a fluke.
 

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Has anyone had success in using the Longitude G sensor to gauge what your changes do for acceleration. I totally forgot to be paying attention to that until recently in data logs. Going through different ones I can see how each other performs compared to the other. It jumps around like crazy so I have to rapidly click play to kind of get a clearer picture (that or slow down playback) in 4th at around 98mph G's peak at .40 while in 3rd around 70mph they peak at .56. Stock isn't it .52 or so, maybe in 2nd gear?

I think the highest figure i've seen was .65 or so but maybe that was a fluke.
I just do my pulls in the exact same area on a nice flat road and toss them into virtual dyno to see if my changes made a difference or not. Only other accurate thing would be using dragy, seems to be pretty popular and accurate.
 

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Is this what people mean when they say they moved the torque curve to the right? I left under 4k alone and just increased 4k and up. Before I had the whole table increased. Before I had the values max of 552 but I know im not getting that and was hoping lowering it some would actually increase output. Just curious if this looks ok. Thanks

Also I just noticed in that picture of the run I just did in the sensor window I have positive degrees of knock retard. 4 and 8 degrees in alternating cylinders. I did also increase ignition by .75. I already reduced it back. What exactly do those values equate to. There wasn't any actual knock in the datalog

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Is this what people mean when they say they moved the torque curve to the right? I left under 4k alone and just increased 4k and up. Before I had the whole table increased. Before I had the values max of 552 but I know im not getting that and was hoping lowering it some would actually increase output. Just curious if this looks ok. Thanks

Also I just noticed in that picture of the run I just did in the sensor window I have positive degrees of knock retard. 4 and 8 degrees in alternating cylinders. I did also increase ignition by .75. I already reduced it back. What exactly do those values equate to. There wasn't any actual knock in the datalog
you would keep the 4000+ rpm values the same and lower the torque values for <4000 instead of increasing the top end and keeping the bottom end the same.

No need to change the values in the lower throttle input range though.
 

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you would keep the 4000+ rpm values the same and lower the torque values for <4000 instead of increasing the top end and keeping the bottom end the same.

No need to change the values in the lower throttle input range though.
Gotya. Leaving the base numbers below 4k untouched and increasing above wouldn't sort of achieve the same kind of thing would it not? Their base values are pretty conservative.

Looking at other logs before I added another .75 of advance knock retard shows 1-3 degrees of retard. a lot better than 4-10. I might back it up an additional .75 to 2.25 and see what that looks like. On the base 93 you don't see any at all.
 

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You know with old turbo cars where it would take a bit to spoil and then the turbo would just hit you in the face at once.

Is it possible to achieve this with just the torque tableau or is this a physical turbo/engine setup that causes this?
 

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You know with old turbo cars where it would take a bit to spoil and then the turbo would just hit you in the face at once.

Is it possible to achieve this with just the torque tableau or is this a physical turbo/engine setup that causes this?
Like an old school 911 turbo lol?
It already feels like it goes from push to shove in an instant since it spools up in well under a second. Its a tiny turbo and Cam angles overlap to aid in spool. Just curious, why would you want to make it less responsive and try to add turbo lag? The only way I see it happening is if you added a giant turbo. I wouldn't want to mess with the cam angles
 

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Gotya. Leaving the base numbers below 4k untouched and increasing above wouldn't sort of achieve the same kind of thing would it not? Their base values are pretty conservative.

Looking at other logs before I added another .75 of advance knock retard shows 1-3 degrees of retard. a lot better than 4-10. I might back it up an additional .75 to 2.25 and see what that looks like. On the base 93 you don't see any at all.
higher requested torque doesn't necessary mean more actual torque though. As you see on most CTR dynos, the torque peaks around 3000-4000 depending on your set up and then drop off after that. Increasing the requested targets in the upper rpm would possibly lower the amount it tapers off up top but it necessary won't change where the torque peaks at.
 


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I wish there was an actual in depth guide to tuning our type r. All of Hondata's notes and information just tell you what everything is, not tips to actually improve it. I'm pretty sure I've made the base maps better with what I've done since recorded acceleration times are slightly better, but more is always wanted. I wonder if I'm pretty much at the limit of the setup I have now.

Has anyone ran against a 370z? There's this clown at work that has one (lowered so much it can't even go over a speed bump or over even road) who's so sure he could out run me with just an exhaust and no tune. I'm willing to bet money he'll be going to gapplebees. I raced an r/t Challenger when I was completely stock and took him for a walk, expected with better power to weight. Also beat a last gen mustang GT and Jetta v6.

I still think straight line racing is stupid and only a pissing contest and takes no skill. Actual race track is where its at
 

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I wish there was an actual in depth guide to tuning our type r. All of Hondata's notes and information just tell you what everything is, not tips to actually improve it. I'm pretty sure I've made the base maps better with what I've done since recorded acceleration times are slightly better, but more is always wanted. I wonder if I'm pretty much at the limit of the setup I have now.

Has anyone ran against a 370z? There's this clown at work that has one (lowered so much it can't even go over a speed bump or over even road) who's so sure he could out run me with just an exhaust and no tune. I'm willing to bet money he'll be going to gapplebees. I raced an r/t Challenger when I was completely stock and took him for a walk, expected with better power to weight. Also beat a last gen mustang GT and Jetta v6.

I still think straight line racing is stupid and only a pissing contest and takes no skill. Actual race track is where its at
You should be able to beat the 370z especially on a 93 tune.

370z tune makes like 325-330whp from quick google lol with a tune and fbo
 

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I wish there was an actual in depth guide to tuning our type r. All of Hondata's notes and information just tell you what everything is, not tips to actually improve it. I'm pretty sure I've made the base maps better with what I've done since recorded acceleration times are slightly better, but more is always wanted. I wonder if I'm pretty much at the limit of the setup I have now.

Has anyone ran against a 370z? There's this clown at work that has one (lowered so much it can't even go over a speed bump or over even road) who's so sure he could out run me with just an exhaust and no tune. I'm willing to bet money he'll be going to gapplebees. I raced an r/t Challenger when I was completely stock and took him for a walk, expected with better power to weight. Also beat a last gen mustang GT and Jetta v6.

I still think straight line racing is stupid and only a pissing contest and takes no skill. Actual race track is where its at
What do you mean by an indepth guide? The bosch ECU is so easy to adjust parameters that it doesn't really require a big guide.
Make a change, do a 3rd gear 2000-7000 pull and keep repeating it for every revision on the same road so you can map it out on virtual dyno and the XY graph on flashpro manager and you can see how much of an effect the changes you made did.

i have a stock nismo 370z as my other toy car lol. A tuned CTR will outrun that thing like it's not moving both on the straightaway and on the turns.

A tuned FBO on E85 might keep up with you but a stock one on pump? no way lol. It's a boat.
 

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What do you mean by an indepth guide? The bosch ECU is so easy to adjust parameters that it doesn't really require a big guide.
Make a change, do a 3rd gear 2000-7000 pull and keep repeating it for every revision on the same road so you can map it out on virtual dyno and the XY graph on flashpro manager and you can see how much of an effect the changes you made did.

i have a stock nismo 370z as my other toy car lol. A tuned CTR will outrun that thing like it's not moving both on the straightaway and on the turns.

A tuned FBO on E85 might keep up with you but a stock one on pump? no way lol. It's a boat.
Isn't it only 50lbs more than the CTR?

But you know better I see one in your pic lol!!
 

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Isn't it only 50lbs more than the CTR?

But you know better I see one in your pic lol!!
The nismo is like 300 lbs heavier than the CTR. 3100 ish vs 3400 ish. The base is slightly lighter than the nismo but it's still heavy. The older ones are also slightly lighter probably due to the lack of sound deadening and all that stuff that the newer model has. It also holds like 19 gallons of fuel compared to 12 ish on the CTR lol. That alone is like 50 lbs if both are at full tank.

The problem is, it FEELS a lot more heavier than just 300 lbs. 300 more lb in a smaller car coupled with the ridiculous lame and annoying stock flywheel makes the car FEEL alot heavier than just 300 lbs. It definitely does not hide its weight.

I've never ran them against each other but been WOT on both of them enough that there's no way that a tuned CTR would lose.
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