Refreshed 2020 Civic Si

Overall, he likes it but go all red or don't change the seats at all. It looks like pink from certain angles:

I wonder if any new colors will be available on the 2020

I might actually wait and get the 2020, unless I find a deal on a 2019 lol I actually love all the changes they made. I don't know anything about Honda Sensing so it'll be a first for me.

Is it really that bad?

zroger73 said:

On that note...

The list price of both halogen headlights for a 2019 Civic is $693.80.
The list price of both LED headlights for a 2019 Civic is $3,292.62. Yikes!
For 2018, Honda Sensing was a $1,000 option.

I'd say $700 for $3,598.82 worth of stuff is a phenomenal bargain.

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Where was that listed?

For the record, I paid over $1500 for my OEM '16-'18 Touring LED headlights for my Si at HondaPartsNow.

On that note, I prefer my '19 Si over the changes shown here, but I don't like that I paid more than double the amount of money for less than half of the new features they're adding onto the '20.

Zcfc3dc5 said:

I wonder if any new colors will be available on the 2020

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Unfortunately nothing for 2020.

Subarashi said:

I might actually wait and get the 2020, unless I find a deal on a 2019 lol I actually love all the changes they made. I don't know anything about Honda Sensing so it'll be a first for me.

Is it really that bad?

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It's not bad... it works as intended for safety reasons. It's more of a matter of preference I guess. In a family car such as my Odyssey which my wife drives mostly, it's fantastic. In a more sporting car, especially with a manual trans, I'd rather not have the car do things for me. I don't want it to automatically brake and flash warning signs when I'm too close. I would never use the lane departure mitigation or the automatic cruise control feature. I would rather not have all those added electronics and possible points of failure for future repairs. The only thing I would like from Honda Sensing on my Si is the blind spot monitoring to get rid of lane watch and the rear cross traffic alert when reversing. Those would be useful.

Micah said:

Source and or details please

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I'm the source lol, I'm an engineer at HCM.

Car is overall quicker though with all changes taken into consideration.

Subarashi said:

Is it really that bad?

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No, but I was not even planning on buying a new car, let alone one that could basically drive itself. Therefore I didn't want any of those features in my car beeping at me when it doesn't approve of my driving. Radar cruise control is a nice feature on very long drives, but I wouldn't want the rest of the features in addition.

Most people are not bothered by any of the features, they're actually helpful and will most likely assist your average driver. I just personally don't want my car intervening with my driving, I bought the car to enjoy it and can go buy a new boring sedan with those features if I want my car to drive itself *basically*

Zcfc3dc5 said:

I wonder if any new colors will be available on the 2020

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They'll offer a limited edition in Barracuda Purple.

Get it while it's hot!

DallasCRX said:

I'm the source lol, I'm an engineer at HCM.

Car is overall quicker though with all changes taken into consideration.

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I know it wasn't stated in any of the articles, but have there been any measures taken to reduce road noise? The new hatch said it has added some sound dampening materials.

DallasCRX said:

Unfortunately nothing for 2020.

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They keeping the tonic yellow pearl though?

I like the LEDs, sensing and final drive. I have to see everything else including the rims in person though. This is all new and might grow on everyone. I was considering getting the HFP rims. So these might be a lot less as their a direct swap at 18 inch. From the computer though, the 17-19 rims look a little sharper.

MuffinMcFluffin said:

They'll offer a limited edition in Barracuda Purple.

Get it while it's hot!

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I love purple! I would so buy it!

The LED headlights and shorter FD are a nice add-ons.

As for the other things,

-The seat color change I want to see in person. It doesn't look that good in the pictures (too many different shades of red)

-The red dash add-on I like.

-It looks like the bottom center of the steering wheel is now gloss black.

- The shifter hight looks like it might be different? Although, this could just be the angle picture.

DallasCRX said:

I'm the source lol, I'm an engineer at HCM.

Car is overall quicker though with all changes taken into consideration.

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How much faster? Also, did Honda Sensing add a bit of weight?