Shifting into 2nd

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I don't have a lot of miles on my 2019 Type R
and only thing I've noticed so far is a slight notch
between first and second gear. Very similar to my wife's 2004 Miataspeed. For the first 15 minutes or so, I make sure the car warms up before I do any aggressive shifting. Sometimes I even double clutch just to make sure. My 78 Porsche 911 SC has the notorious 915 gearbox which is a tough gearbox, but you sure have to be patient to avoid any grinding! I think the same may apply to my Type R.....just a slight pause before shifting can make all the difference. I've always used and heard Redline make e excellant transmission fluid. Has anyone tried it? MT-85 75W85 GL-4
 

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I’ve changed to Amsoil fluid and it did not change anything, either people are veeeeeerrrryyyy sensitive and do feel some kind of difference, or it’s just a placebo... if there is a difference in that gearbox after changing fluid it must be like <5% smoother.

What I did find in 34k miles in Si is that 2nd and 4th is completely smooth if you shift slower, don’t use any force and don’t shift to 1st to 2nd / 3rd to 4th in one motion. I have to go from 3rd to neutral for a split second and then to 4th while just guiding the lever with no force applied.

Imagine when using gear lever for gears 1-4 as an letter H with both bottom legs shifted just a tiny bit to the right side. Every time we go from odd to an even gear we are hitting that tiny misaligned edge. If this doesn’t make sense I’m sorry.

I guess people with stronger centering spring could chime in and see if they can smoothly shift in one motion.
 

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I don't have a lot of miles on my 2019 Type R
and only thing I've noticed so far is a slight notch
between first and second gear. Very similar to my wife's 2004 Miataspeed. For the first 15 minutes or so, I make sure the car warms up before I do any aggressive shifting. Sometimes I even double clutch just to make sure. My 78 Porsche 911 SC has the notorious 915 gearbox which is a tough gearbox, but you sure have to be patient to avoid any grinding! I think the same may apply to my Type R.....just a slight pause before shifting can make all the difference. I've always used and heard Redline make e excellant transmission fluid. Has anyone tried it? MT-85 75W85 GL-4
I think that viscosity is too high for your transmission. I have seen many people use this viscosity, they have not reported any issues but it may not be suitable for your synchronizes. This is actually the viscosity my 1995 Toyota Corolla used. Check the label to make sure it is suitable for transmissions with synchronizes. Also in cold weather you may experience shifting issues until the fluid fully warms up
 


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I’ve changed to Amsoil fluid and it did not change anything, either people are veeeeeerrrryyyy sensitive and do feel some kind of difference, or it’s just a placebo... if there is a difference in that gearbox after changing fluid it must be like <5% smoother.

What I did find in 34k miles in Si is that 2nd and 4th is completely smooth if you shift slower, don’t use any force and don’t shift to 1st to 2nd / 3rd to 4th in one motion. I have to go from 3rd to neutral for a split second and then to 4th while just guiding the lever with no force applied.

Imagine when using gear lever for gears 1-4 as an letter H with both bottom legs shifted just a tiny bit to the right side. Every time we go from odd to an even gear we are hitting that tiny misaligned edge. If this doesn’t make sense I’m sorry.

I guess people with stronger centering spring could chime in and see if they can smoothly shift in one motion.
I have had it in my transmission over 10K miles, a placebo affect would have worn off a long time ago. Also there are too many people who have reported the difference from OEM. Lastly if you look at the datasheet compared to the OEM, Amsoil has a longer change interval, maintains a higher viscosity at 100 degrees C, has a higher flash point, higher shear, and flows better at colder temps. That alone makes it worth changing it out for the OEM
 

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Anyone else feels that shifting into 2nd feels really weird or is it just me? All the other gears are as smooth as butter but 2nd is horrible, almost looks like it doesn't want to get into 2nd from first.

Talked to the dealer about it yesterday and he told me that 2-3 Si they got had a broken transmission from factory and they were not shifting right...
Its not only you. I have a 18 hatchback and I just notice yesterday it shifting gears to 2 feels weird , I feel when i shift to 2nd like it wont go in and it bounces back on its own to neutral position
 

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Sure- when I first heard the faint noise, I knew what it was so I recorded it... same as I did with the screen flicker. Called and described the noise and democratically offered my opinion of it being the throw out bearing. As soon as I pulled into the service bay, the manager and I both agreed that the bearing was the only real thing it could be (grinding noise with clutch depressed). They/he didn’t say a word about anything other than they would call me.

He called a couple hours later and confirmed the failure... and told me they were replacing everything since the car was brand new... I had an Accord Sport as a loaner.

When I picked it up, the tech hacked my shifter bezel, which I didn’t notice until I got home. Called the mgr back, emailed a pic and it was replaced, no questions asked.

Really couldn’t ask for a better dealer so far.
Did it sound like a Faint Knock when you depressed the cluth like a methalic click Sound?
 

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No. With the clutch depressed, it was a rotational metallic grind
 

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If every gear felt the same always, I wouldn't mind the notch going in. but its never consistent. Sometimes it goes in like butter, sometimes it resists going in, sometimes it clicks going in, sometimes it refuses to go into first while getting ready to pull out of a street light. Reverse also sometimes will lock you out, even if you have the clutch depressed if you are slightly moving forward VERY slowly
Can you hear the click sound down the petals when you shift gears?
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