Some doubts before buying new Type R

I literally drive my car hard every chance I get because it’s just such a blast! I’ve never had any heat soaking issues at all.

People on here often confuse heat soak with overheating. Heat soak refers to high intake temps which cause the engine to reduce boost pressure and pull timing. This occurs anytime ambient temps are high or you repeatedly spool the turbo causing heat which the intercooler cannot adequately dissipate. You can continue to drive with any amount of heat soak, but you will be losing power.

Overheating ONLY happens on the track when your oil temp and water temp gets beyond the capability of the car. The car will pull power when this starts to happen and will eventually go into "limp mode" which drastically reduces power output until temps return to safe levels. This WILL NOT happen on the street. There is nothing you could do on the street that would get you anywhere close to this happening. The only way you can cause it to happen is on a lower speed track, if the ambient temps are high and you drive the car at 9/10ths or more, meaning you are at full throttle 100% of the time that you are not braking or turning. I have taken my CTR to Daytona and run it pretty hard, and the temp gauge barely moved because, despite the high ambient temps and being almost constantly at 100% throttle, every time I would get on the straightaways and banking (150+ MPH) the air flowing over the radiator at that speed cooled it back down.

TLDR: if you don't plan on tracking the car, you'll be fine. If your car pulls power in the heat, buy a better intercooler.

vissor said:

Hello Guys,
I'm about to order a new Type R from the dealership.
But recently I have some doubts, mainly about the overheating issues.
I am not planning to take the car to a track, but I do like to drive sometimes fast and have some fun, do I have to be worried about this issue if I won't take the CTR tracking?
Thanx.

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I daily mine, completely stock, never any heating issues. I life in a place where it gets to be 90 to 100 1-2 months of the year so I've seen hot weather.

Just to clarify, I understand CTR overheating at the track will only occur if you're an advanced driver (or perhaps a really good intermediate) because even if you're only like 5 seconds off a professional driver's time, you'll be on the throttle much less than them over the course of a lap. (A pro will get on the gas very early in the corner and floor it to a very late braking zone). Intermediates and beginners are often 10-15 seconds off a pro time. On your first track day 20 seconds off a pro time would be fine (safety is more important). So for a beginning driver it will be a few track days before you overheat the car.

I often drive my car like i stole it and no problems here. On a tune and everything

This is a great car love it every time i drive it .

bi9guns said:

I use mine as a daily driver 25 mile each way going to work, comprised of highway, backroads, and a few stop lights/signs. Zero issues with overheating.

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I second this; i have a 20 mile each way commute, mostly highway and traffic lights. I did some spirited driving on back roads and had no problem

19k miles on mine and I still enjoy it. If you're not taking it to the track, you wont really encounter huge problems with heat soak.

I daily the car, don’t track it, live in a place where the median high temp is in the mid 80s (95 degrees today, feels like 107 outside), no problems at all

Easily my absolute favorite car I’ve ever owned...

I’m putting my faith that you won’t be disappointed either..

No purchase regrets whatsoever... even after (8) months of $707/mo payments

That said, if I hadn’t found this forum or saw a modded CTR in person, would have been happy staying stock. Now that door is open though... It would be hard turning back... so be prepared for that... and for fun

vissor said:

Hello Guys,
I'm about to order a new Type R from the dealership.
But recently I have some doubts, mainly about the overheating issues.
I am not planning to take the car to a track, but I do like to drive sometimes fast and have some fun, do I have to be worried about this issue if I won't take the CTR tracking?
Thanx.

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I have yet to track my car, BUT I take it to the canyons about twice a week. I live in Orange County, California and the temperature lately has been in the 90s. I will do multiple runs at a time and driving hard for 30 mins straight does not cause any issues.
If you are planning to track the car very hard.. then I would be concerned with the heating issues.

If you're not tracking and canyons runs is the worst you'll do, then I wouldn't worry at all.

Plus you can still track the car, just have to let it cool after a few (really) hard laps. You have to drive the car 10/10 to make it over heat on track.

remc86007 said:

TLDR: if you don't plan on tracking the car, you'll be fine. If your car pulls power in the heat, buy a better intercooler.

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Just to piggy back on the topic of intercooler upgrading to a bigger one, do you need a tune for that?

I believe that if you go bigger intercooler you need a tune

willskiGT said:

I drive mine very hard for extended periods on mountain roads in N GA. Zero overheating issues or brake fade. Car is solid.

On a track, especially in hot weather, is the only place you're likely to see overheating.

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I'm a certified MSF instructor. I've tracked my my 2019 4 times since picking it up at the end of May. First time was instructing w/NASA @ their Hyperfest event at VIR in high 90 ambient with high humidity. Typical summer weather at VIR.

The car has never gone into limp mode due to heat (but it *does* run hot) running at instructor pace.

Not an issue like earlier model owners reported.

Since the OP said he wasn't going to track, brakes are not relevant, but the OEM pads are garbage for serious track use and will disintegrate after one weekend. This car needs better pads for track duty (Carbotechs work great BTW w/SRF) unless you are a novice or very conservative on braking.

Someone should delete the entire track issues thread and put this thread in its place! This is the first sensible thread and realistic expectations about the heat issues that I have seen anywhere on any forum. And thanks for the brake pad tip too! Could not agree more! 8/10ths all day long = no problems. 10/10ths - wring-its-neck-every-lap --- well what the heck do expect from a family hatchback?