Has anyone known a Type R to be stolen?

Chee_hu · Jul 22, 2019

Man, you bring up the most random topics in here haha.

On topic, I have not heard of anyone and I live in CA where a lot of Hondas get stolen via flat bed tow truck.

scottEXT · Jul 22, 2019

A lot of these cars are resold in South Africa and Mexico.

True story- friends parents SUV was stolen they saw it in Cuba with there Ontario plates still on it 2 years later on vacation

Overseas shipping isn’t that expensive and no one cares what’s inside

bikejog · Jul 22, 2019

I think they use some kind of wireless amplifier/repeater. You would need two people to pull this off: one close to the key fob and one close to the car. So basically, the wireless connection between the key fob and the car is amplified and repeated between the two thieves.

So basically, the key fob's signals are repeated over long distances to the thief next to the car and it's just like he's carrying the key fob with him.

Groundcontrol · Jul 22, 2019

bikejog said:
I think they use some kind of wireless amplifier/repeater. You would need two people to pull this off: one close to the key fob and one close to the car. So basically, the wireless connection between the key fob and the car is amplified and repeated between the two thieves.

So basically, the key fob's signals are repeated over long distances to the thief next to the car and it's just like he's carrying the key fob with him.

Exactly. With key fobs and push button start, cars are actually getting easier to steal. Thieves can relay your key fobs frequency (especially if it is one that is "always on") with some cheap tech to an accomplice that is standing next to your car outside with a device that receives the relayed signal from your key fob. They can then get in the car, start it and drive off while you are none the wiser.

sean465 · Jul 22, 2019

Get your keys in a faraday pouch!! Blocks the signal

Think I've heard of one in the uk. It's low cos

1) there is not the parts market for them over here unlike s3, R, RS
2) kids are playing fortnite rather than joyride

s2kdriver80 · Jul 22, 2019

Aside from electronic-based deterrents, it's also a good idea to use mechanical locks. Steering wheel plate lock, locks for each of the 3 pedals, wheel clamps, etc. Not an anti-theft guarantee, but will minimize your chances of becoming a target. If they want your car, make them work for it by forcing them to carry bulky tools and make loud noises trying to get them off.

bikejog · Jul 22, 2019

sean465 said:
Get your keys in a faraday pouch!! Blocks the signal

Think I've heard of one in the uk. It's low cos

1) there is not the parts market for them over here unlike s3, R, RS
2) kids are playing fortnite rather than joyride

Although the method I mentioned sounds simple, it's probably much more technical to implement. Your neighborhood teenager is probably not gonna be able to just buy something off the shelf and pull this off. I do not know in detail how the method works, but I can't imagine any keyless entry system is so badly designed to overlook this simple hack.

Conclusion? I'm not buying a faraday pouch yet.

ez12a · Jul 22, 2019

bikejog said:
Although the method I mentioned sounds simple, it's probably much more technical to implement. Your neighborhood teenager is probably not gonna be able to just buy something off the shelf and pull this off. I do not know in detail how the method works, but I can't imagine any keyless entry system is so badly designed to overlook this simple hack.

Conclusion? I'm not buying a faraday pouch yet.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2016/03/21/audi-bmw-ford-thief-car-hacking/#23d7ba74f1e2

No decryption required. Its just relaying the encrypted data between the fob and the car.

It's not that expensive actually. Plus, you can potentially boost multiple cars in a location, say like a parking structure to an apt building. My buddy's S4 and his roommate's BMW were stolen on the same night. Both recovered eventually. My friend's S4 was being driven and interior trashed when the cops found it. Some repairable exterior damage too if I remember. The driver and passenger were arrested.

Luckily they didnt get it to a chop shop or remove any parts (it was modded). Seems like it was just joy ridden.

Harlaquin · Jul 22, 2019

Chee_hu said:
Man, you bring up the most random topics in here haha.

On topic, I have not heard of anyone and I live in CA where a lot of Hondas get stolen via flat bed tow truck.

gotta keep it interesting. I get a kick out of all the people saying how easy it is to steal a car yet none are stolen.. must not be that simple or im gonna go take some test drives

cars would be stolen off dealer lots left and right if all you had to do was scan it with a chinese scanner.

bikejog · Jul 22, 2019

ez12a said:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2016/03/21/audi-bmw-ford-thief-car-hacking/#23d7ba74f1e2

No decryption required. Its just relaying the encrypted data between the fob and the car.

It's not that expensive actually. Plus, you can potentially boost multiple cars in a location, say like a parking structure to an apt building. My buddy's S4 and his roommate's BMW were stolen on the same night. Both recovered eventually. My friend's S4 was being driven and interior trashed when the cops found it. Some repairable exterior damage too if I remember. The driver and passenger were arrested.

Luckily they didnt get it to a chop shop or remove any parts (it was modded). Seems like it was just joy ridden.

Yes I too learned about the hack from that same Forbes' article. I noticed that only a few models from each manufacturer are affected (Civic is not one of them. ;-) ) Perhaps the affected models use one single frequency to communicate and the un-affected models use some type of Frequency-Hopping Spread spectrum scheme? It would be close to impossible to hack a spread spectrum system. So no worries. Even the lowly cordless phones use spread spectrum.

Dragnet · Jul 22, 2019

scottEXT said:
A lot of these cars are resold in South Africa and Mexico.

True story- friends parents SUV was stolen they saw it in Cuba with there Ontario plates still on it 2 years later on vacation

Overseas shipping isn’t that expensive and no one cares what’s inside

Hold on damnit. You can't just tell us how they saw their vehicle 2 years later in a different country and not tell us what happened next.

RedGiant217 · Jul 22, 2019

Dragnet said:
Hold on damnit. You can't just tell us how they saw their vehicle 2 years later in a different country and not tell us what happened next.

Haha exactly what I was thinking

Learn2turn · Jul 22, 2019

Ghostype_R said:
A white one was stolen out here. They had some kind of frequency reading device. Stood next to the Type R for 15 minutes and got in. They stole a type r and a new accord in 20 minutes.

I live in a suburb of Albuquerque and this is legit. Rolling code frequency generators are the modern slim jim and hotwire.

87elco · Jul 22, 2019

Harlaquin said:
Lol i guess i should say why would anyone steal a type R. No one needs parts for then yet. We are a few years out on that. And its not like gone in 60 seconds where these are rare valuable hard to get cars. Most of the top 10 cars stolen in US are cars that have high demand for parts. They are stolen and stripped. The R is not there yet. Im figuring the few that have were probably joy rides?

Exactly and most of the stuff in the type r isn't easily interchangeable with normal civics...charger rt srt etc are stolen a lot because everything fits throughout the models

Deleted member 31314 · Jul 23, 2019

Just disconnect and take your battery with you every time you leave your car and don't forget to wrap chains through your wheels and lock them with bells attached. If you hear Christmas bells than someone is trying to steal your car....

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