Fact or BS - Dealer said it's normal for CTR to not start after sitting for 6 days

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Sometimes my dash cam stays on for days and still my car turns on like nothing
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Complete BS. I've gone on vacation and come back to it running. No one close to me that has access to the keys knows how to drive a stick, so they have no reason to start it.
 

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Went to Hawaii for a month, started just fine when I got home. Dealership is lying or stupid.
 

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OEM battery should start the car without issues, specially if the car is relatively new, like the CTR.
In my case, after the six day of hibernation of the car, you can feel a slightly delay on my aftermarket battery when turning on.

Note: years ago, I was told the same thing at a VW dealer ('cause my old GTI), they claimed the battery will be in use, if you let the car unlocked & the doors windows down. We tested the battery with my neighbor, and indeed, when the car was locked, the charge of the battery was spot on, not the same when the windows were down. HOWEVER, OEM that battery lasted 7 years without any hiccup.
 

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The amount of accessories installed should have almost no bearing on parasitic drain, especially if the car's designed properly - which I'd imagine it is. Maybe that'll increase the chances of something going wrong, but whatever.

Something weird is going on here - either your battery is shot, you left a light on somewhere, etc. or you've got a genuine parasitic drain issue going on, which I'd find hard to believe on a car this new... but you never know.

You can assess for parasitic drag yourself by getting a multimeter (I have one that's like $4 from HF) and putting it in-line with the battery to see the amperage draw when the car is off. This is easier than it sounds - there are videos on YT on how to do it.

I'm not sure how the Type R is designed, but on my old-ass E46 it takes 16 minutes for the car to go into "sleep" mode. It'll draw like 1 - 2 amps (or something) while the car is doing its typical German fuckery, and then after the time's up it'll automatically go to "sleep" and turn off all interior lights you've left on, headlights, whatever. It'll still draw like <0.05 amps even after it goes to sleep, which is insignificant. Not sure if any of this applies to the Type R/Civics/Hondas - just sharing my experience.

If you've determined you do have a problem, the next step is to determine what's causing it. I saw this fellow on one of the forums use an infrared thermometer on his fuse box to determine which one was warmer than the others to find out what was causing it. Clever SOB.
that is think straight!! just trace the heat source...smart SOB for sure!! learn something new today! :)
 


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If car does not start after 6 days of sitting, there is a FAULT in the car electronics.

When you turn off the ignition, there are items in the car that keep running, but they should "time Out" and then shut down, so finally, after about 10 minutes, every part of the car is is a dormant state, and drawing only a very small "standby" current.

example : radio draws a very small current to keep your preset radio station remembered in memory.

This standby current is so small, it will take many weeks to drain the battery to a point where the car will not start.

However, if any of the systems does not go into its dormant state, then the battery will be discharged, sometimes in only a few days.

IT easy to see if all systems are going dormant.. with a mill-amp meter in the battery lead.
Dealer (or you if you have a meter) should be able to do this and verify that all systems are finally going into standby.

If there is still excessive current, then finding what is drawing that unwanted current can be a challenge.

But it does also seem that the Original Honda battery in your car can be "weak", probably because at some time in it's life (at the Dealership before sale maybe), the battery was allowed to go flat, which will cause damage, and it will never charge up to full capacity after that.
 

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If car does not start after 6 days of sitting, there is a FAULT in the car electronics.
...But it does also seem that the Original Honda battery in your car can be "weak", probably because at some time in it's life (at the Dealership before sale maybe), the battery was allowed to go flat, which will cause damage, and it will never charge up to full capacity after that.
yes, I'm building a Ram Promaster camper van at the moment, and while I was researching my solar system, I found out that if I use standard AGM batteries, I would need 2 to 3 hundred amp-hour of capacity, as AGM batteries CANNOT go below half capacity. If it does, one would have a hard time charge back up to 100%...it most likely will not even charge up pass 50%. so I went with a Lithium battery. Lithium Phosphate batteries can be drain down to 0% and should just as easily charge back up to 100%...

so if the OP's CTR did have it's battery completely drained, then it is likely the battery not providing more than 12.6V..you'd be surprise, as your car will behave weirdly if you only had 12.4V. might not even start with just 0.2V short.
 

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Wow these dealers now days :crazy: , my car sat from new years eve when i bought it and brought it home all the way until mid march, i was outside of country and had no one that could go start it up for me, got back and it fired right up.
 

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My brother had an issue with his battery dying in his older TSX. It took a bunch of troubleshooting but it turned out to be a faulty Bluetooth module for the hands free phone calling that was heating up and pulling way too much power. He didn't want to pay to replace the part and never used it anyway, so he just unhooked it. He hasn't had an issue with the battery again after that.
 

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I just got back from vacation for a week and it started right up. It was garaged and the weather was hot. if it wasn't garaged and in the winter I'd say there would be a small issue of starting but it would be fine.
 


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Hello proud CTR owners,

I learned this from my local dealer today, and this completely blows me away. Is it fact or just some BS?

> I bus to work, and thus, sometimes the car sits on the driveway for 6 straight days.
> In the past, the car would struggle to start (after sitting for 6 days), but still managed to make it. This past Sunday, it finally gave up, and I had to jump it.
> The local dealer told me today that, the newer Honda's have the "technology" that drains the battery even when sitting on the driveway. The computer is still running. Blah blah...
> My other older Honda's would start after sitting for 2-3 weeks. My CTR is 2018 with 12,000 miles. I live in Seattle and right now it's in the 60's (batteries tend to struggle in cold weather).

If this is true, then that means all of us are screwed after parking at the airport for 1 week.

Guys, is this fact or BS?

Thanks,
Michael
Lol. You should do a weekly post called “fact or bs”
 

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Just to add to the many other posts confirming this is BS, my CTR sat for multiple 2- or 3-week spells during the winter months when the roads were too bad or heavily salted for me to want to drive it. Started up totally fine every time, even in very cold conditions. Hell, my '06 Corolla sounded more reluctant to start in the cold than the R did, despite it being driven daily during that time.
 

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Complete BS. Because battery.

I have left my car for two weeks at airport parking. No issues.
 

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Autozone will check your battery for free.
 

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I was laid up for the last 2 weeks: The CTR started right up this morning just fine, although the engine wasn't as smooth on start-up as normal (which is probably normal for sitting that long).
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