Anyone ever deal with Toponemotors?

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If you know business operations, have been a CEO, built or ran small to over $1B operations like I have - never blame the suppliers when dealing with end customers. It has nothing to do with the customer. It’s YOUR problem as a company making the final product. I you have bad suppliers - change them. I you can’t control or properly manage your operations - get ready to be fired.

This shit happens all the time in this niche segment of auto aftermarket for years and continues to be so. These are tiny little companies (less than $1M-$5M) who have founders and entrepreneurs who most of the time are running a “lifestyle” business...ala profits fund their lifestyles. Unfortunate but that’s the fact since I do private equity investments and venture investments.

I’ve been back and forth with them on IG/FB for some R&D discussions. Emails go unanswered, and I read this thread. It’s all symptoms of a small business that has yet to learn how to be a real business.

Don’t blame the suppliers or the customers - blame yourself as a company and hold yourself accountable. This shit needs to change in this niche...
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Update. They finally shipped my product. I don't even know what to say anymore. I had to reach out to a local ctr owner that was sponsored by them just to get them to respond to me on ig. That was a lot of noise to make for something that TBH could've been easily resolved.

Needless to say, I wont be using their products on any future projects. This set will be installed on the CTR bc honestly I think I've invested enough of my time dealing with this company and would hate to deal with them again just to return something.

Hopefully this thread comes in handy to everyone who is considering their product.
 

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Update. They finally shipped my product. I don't even know what to say anymore. I had to reach out to a local ctr owner that was sponsored by them just to get them to respond to me on ig. That was a lot of noise to make for something that TBH could've been easily resolved.

Needless to say, I wont be using their products on any future projects. This set will be installed on the CTR bc honestly I think I've invested enough of my time dealing with this company and would hate to deal with them again just to return something.

Hopefully this thread comes in handy to everyone who is considering their product.
Thank you for this thread! I was about to order a front splitter from them and after seeing this I will go with another company. Not sure who else is good but I wont be using this company that's for sure :thumbsup:
 

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we continue to receive feedback on top1 which we are collecting. the more info we have and if feedback gets to a certain level, we post a "do not buy" warning for folks to be aware.

here's one from a member who may also be on here wrt to top1's poor customer service and paint peeling from the splitter.

 
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Thank you for this thread! I was about to order a front splitter from them and after seeing this I will go with another company. Not sure who else is good but I wont be using this company that's for sure :thumbsup:
Which parts were you looking at?
 


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was looking to order the v2 vents but i don't think so anymore...
 
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For now just the front splitter
Go with the BMSPEC ones. Way better.

As a matter of fact, I just hit a berm going 90mph this past weekend at laguna and the splitter took it like a champ. No damage at all.
 

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Go with the BMSPEC ones. Way better.

As a matter of fact, I just hit a berm going 90mph this past weekend at laguna and the splitter took it like a champ. No damage at all.
Wow thanks man! i’ll check out bmspec.
 

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Wow thanks man! i’ll check out bmspec.
bmspec has one of the worst install ever. you'll need to do some modification for the install. here's the install file if you're curious.

i know 2 ppl who have lost or had their bmspes broke off on track following the installation file.

others have had success so ask around how they installed it.
 

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bmspec has one of the worst install ever. you'll need to do some modification for the install. here's the install file if you're curious.

i know 2 ppl who have lost or had their bmspes broke off on track following the installation file.

others have had success so ask around how they installed it.
Damn that’s good to know, thanks for the install files!

I am also looking at a company called downforce solutions that is similar to the apr one. I was going to buy from that company when I had my mustang as other mustang owners around here used them. So i’ll check both, bmspec is about $150 cheaper so still not sure what way to go.
 
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bmspec has one of the worst install ever. you'll need to do some modification for the install. here's the install file if you're curious.

i know 2 ppl who have lost or had their bmspes broke off on track following the installation file.

others have had success so ask around how they installed it.
While the installation instructions could be better, if you just take your time and read them carefully, you'll be fine. With that said, I wouldn't be surprised if the two people you know who had their splitter break off was due to "user error" as opposed to a product deficiency.

The APR splitter is not a bad option. I've used their products on a few of my past projects. But i ultimately went with the BMSPEC one due to it's more aggressive profile and three piece design.

By the way, the fact that the BMSPEC splitter is three pieces allows you to replace just one piece if anything were to break as opposed to the entire thing. Also I believe that if any piece were to break off on the track, BMSPEC will actually replace it free of charge (i think you just pay shipping).
 

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Extremely thankful to stumble upon this posts, I have been following them for awhile and was tentative on placing an order. After reading the experiences, I am probably going to hold off on buying something from them!
 

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was looking to order the v2 vents but i don't think so anymore...
Same here.

I had a brief email exchange and they seemed pretty unprofessional, but I had no idea it was this bad. When asked if the v2 vents come with instructions, as well as a follow up about whether they have any data that supports the claims that their vents provide cooling and drag reduction:
No instructions. it is a pretty simple install. we don't have data on the bumper vents but many customers have been saying it does help.
 

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While the installation instructions could be better, if you just take your time and read them carefully, you'll be fine. With that said, I wouldn't be surprised if the two people you know who had their splitter break off was due to "user error" as opposed to a product deficiency.

The APR splitter is not a bad option. I've used their products on a few of my past projects. But i ultimately went with the BMSPEC one due to it's more aggressive profile and three piece design.

By the way, the fact that the BMSPEC splitter is three pieces allows you to replace just one piece if anything were to break as opposed to the entire thing. Also I believe that if any piece were to break off on the track, BMSPEC will actually replace it free of charge (i think you just pay shipping).
Gathering feedback on APR also. Generally install has been also a bit of a challenge with some users. It’s odd that consistent theme is installation. Will report back once we gather more data from APR users.
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