Why all the complaining about 20 inch wheels?

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Bumping this thread because I'm curious. I was heading uphill and just before the larger incline there are railroad tracks. I'm usually in the right lane and it isn't so bad when I hit the tracks at about 30, this time I was in the left lane and hit the tracks at nearly 40, WHABAM! on the front passenger side. I was expecting to swerve into the median or into the right lane. I got home, checked the wheel, everything looked fine but holy hell it gave me something to think about. I am careful with the car (sometimes overly careful). What I'm curious about is if anyone has sold their stock set, how much they got for it and what they're riding on now. I tossed around the idea of selling them but I'm on the fence.
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Bumping this thread because I'm curious. I was heading uphill and just before the larger incline there are railroad tracks. I'm usually in the right lane and it isn't so bad when I hit the tracks at about 30, this time I was in the left lane and hit the tracks at nearly 40, WHABAM! on the front passenger side. I was expecting to swerve into the median or into the right lane. I got home, checked the wheel, everything looked fine but holy hell it gave me something to think about. I am careful with the car (sometimes overly careful). What I'm curious about is if anyone has sold their stock set, how much they got for it and what they're riding on now. I tossed around the idea of selling them but I'm on the fence.
If you look in the classified section in this forum you will see lots of postings selling and buying the stock wheels, that should help you get an idea on the price people are getting.
 

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also $1300 to replace seems insane, but if you are stuck somewhere you kinda are SOL
 


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SO basically if we keep our 20s and put a beefier tire the R will be slower?? or will it make any difference? what's the biggest tire you can put on the R without rubbing and keeping the stock wheels then?
 

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Theres no way to understand poeple now if it has 18 tgen its to small if it have 20 there to big , i haven't had a problem with mine this car is just not for everyone any car at this level will destroy wheels and tires if it hits a pot hole .
 

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Seems no shortage of stock wheels and tires second hand. Replacement LN good condition can be found easily. Stock is the most practical and cost effective. I would be more concerned by having to replace some of the boutiques 18” wheels if you bend as most are limited run wheels or limited production.
 

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Seems no shortage of stock wheels and tires second hand. Replacement LN good condition can be found easily. Stock is the most practical and cost effective. I would be more concerned by having to replace some of the boutiques 18” wheels if you bend as most are limited run wheels or limited production.
i remember some folks ran numbers a while back to demonstrate why stock is NOT the most cost effective:

see this guy’s detailed cost forecast

you’re def. right that replacing a damaged rare or limited run aftermarket wheel will be logistically challenging. but a big reason people are going that direction is because the stock 20’s are much more susceptible to bending than quality 18 and 19 in alternatives.
 


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If the wheels are so heavy why is everyone worried about bending them? Aren't they as strong as any replacement would be?
when you run over a pothole of any size you will see. the hitting of metal is all you will hear. happened to me a couple times and luckily no bent wheel. many have had bad luck though. at the track this size in general is ideal. because smooth pavement
 

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SO basically if we keep our 20s and put a beefier tire the R will be slower?? or will it make any difference? what's the biggest tire you can put on the R without rubbing and keeping the stock wheels then?
can someone please chime in on this question..very interested too as I am shopping for new tires and wonder if I should look at 245/35 or 255/35..open to reviews and experiences
 

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can someone please chime in on this question..very interested too as I am shopping for new tires and wonder if I should look at 245/35 or 255/35..open to reviews and experiences
I can tell you a lot on this subject, some good, some bad. In terms of feel, I really liked pilot sports in 245/35 20. The car never felt appreciably slower, and the wheels felt more protected.

That said - I still did damage a wheel (required a repair) in a bad enough way to also require replacement of the tire.

The track experience with 245/35 is good and bad. The pilot sports grip well and ride well, but the sidewalls roll over and pieces of the outside rim of the tire start wearing very badly. They left me wanting something wider.

The 20s are big, heavy, don't accommodate a wider tire very well, but look sweet, and perform slightly worse with a taller tire.

Personally, I've ordered a replacement wheel set after my 3rd track day with them. I'm switching to Apex EC 7s with 265/35r18s and we'll see how that goes at stock ride height. I've seen conflicting reports on "will it rub".

I was a stalwart believer in keeping the stock rims, but they are just gonna eat expensive tires, and even with snow tires on 18s the car barely torque steers, even on michelin ice X the car feels tight, pulls out of corners hard, and exhibits mega grip compared to a normal car in the summer.
 

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I ordered a set of Motegi MR145 wheels and I'm losing 10 lbs of unsprung mass per wheel. People will rip out infotainment systems from cars to shave 20 odd lbs. Yes, the larger rims will flex less than having a larger sidewall, if that's your end game. The other issue is the stock tries have a low treadwear rating.

They have phenomenal grip IMO and look great. But the car is my daily, and I'd rather shave the few lbs. If I ever track it, the stocks could go back on. But I'd rather something a bit more beatable for daily use, especially on the tire front. I'd rather not have to accompany each oil change with a new set of tires. Also I live in NY. I was thinking I'd just avoid potholes, but then when you actually start to do so very actively...there are a lot of potholes here. I don't want to risk damaging the rims lol.
 

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I can tell you a lot on this subject, some good, some bad. In terms of feel, I really liked pilot sports in 245/35 20. The car never felt appreciably slower, and the wheels felt more protected.

That said - I still did damage a wheel (required a repair) in a bad enough way to also require replacement of the tire.

The track experience with 245/35 is good and bad. The pilot sports grip well and ride well, but the sidewalls roll over and pieces of the outside rim of the tire start wearing very badly. They left me wanting something wider.

The 20s are big, heavy, don't accommodate a wider tire very well, but look sweet, and perform slightly worse with a taller tire.

Personally, I've ordered a replacement wheel set after my 3rd track day with them. I'm switching to Apex EC 7s with 265/35r18s and we'll see how that goes at stock ride height. I've seen conflicting reports on "will it rub".

I was a stalwart believer in keeping the stock rims, but they are just gonna eat expensive tires, and even with snow tires on 18s the car barely torque steers, even on michelin ice X the car feels tight, pulls out of corners hard, and exhibits mega grip compared to a normal car in the summer.

ARe you worried about the scrub radius and or handling issues?

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