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The first and only Honda dealership I went to let me test drive a new one. It's not a lambo. You should be able to find a dealership that will let you go for a spin.
You don’t get it. It doesn’t have to be a lambo. That’s not how test drives work. Is the market that calls for it.
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If your in NJ you can drive mine.
 

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You’re right I’m just annoyed that I can test drive all the other cars I’m interested in. I do test drive them for fun but all of them are cars on my list as potential new buys. I’m driving to them so far out because I like to plan ahead. So far the only
Car I have not test driven on my list is the type r and not to sound like a dick but jayevo23 is right, it is not a Lamborghini. Heck the numbers aren’t even that small. The last one I saw at a dealer was number 24k. I can’t buy something if I don’t drive it and then think about it for awhile, I’m putting a significant amount of money out there for this car and I would like to be happy with it before I do that.
I mean i get it but, would you buy a "New Car" thats been test driven god knows how many times by drivers of varying degrees of skill? How many stalls? How many Grinds, hard starts hard breaks and so on. I wouldnt want that car. And honestly the numbers are that small. The 24k you saw was after 2 years and for worldwide production. In contrast the regular civics sell 600k plus a year just in the US.
The Type R is probably the smallest run of any car under 100k. Hell there are more corvettes currently just sitting on dealer lots right now then an entire year US production of Sold Type Rs.
 

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You say that as if some 450hp+ cars are better than the Type R. It’s not about HP it’s about the whole package. The CTR is special and buyers don’t want their cars driven, and buyers don’t test drive their CTR, they just know it’s the one.
The joke is BMW dealers will allow people to drive a $80k car but Honda dealers don't allow it for a $35k car. It's a performance car but it's no more special than high-performance cars that dealers have no issue giving test drives in. I'd say the R is less special considering it's still an econobox at heart and basically anyone with a job can finance one unlike other true performance vehicles.

Even Porsche allows buyers to test drive their GT cars which are far more special and prestigious than a Civic.

It's comical and sad at the same time.
 
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The joke is BMW dealers will allow people to drive a $80k car but Honda dealers don't allow it for a $35k car. It's a performance car but it's no more special than high-performance cars that dealers have no issue giving test drives in. I'd say the R is less special considering it's still an econobox at heart and basically anyone with a job can finance one unlike other true performance vehicles.

Even Porsche allows buyers to test drive their GT cars which are far more special and prestigious than a Civic.

It's comical and sad at the same time.
You need to look at the people doing these test drives. You typically are not going to get off the street boy racer people who cant afford the car walking into BMW and Porsche to test 80k plus cars. You will be spotted a mile away. Honda on the other had is a everyday man's car that every tom dick and harry could afford and shuffles through the dealer. Typically most people shopping BMW and Porsche are gonna be more refined and have a certain air about them that those dealers arent gonna worry as much. But yall make it sound as if anyone can just go test drive those cars for the hell of it. I promise you they just dont hand keys to anyone.
Honda dealers are dealing at a different level , they get the inexperienced wanting first sports car. The people who shouldn't buy the car but do because it is pretty much everyday guy attainable. Young kids....blah blah... its why dollar general locks up everyday items that other higher end retailers leave out.
Take it as an insult or not but its the class of customer. And I dont mean that as a blanket statement but yall get my point.
 

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the problem is the potential buyers. The potential buyers of these cars doesn't want one that has been test driven.

And the dealer doesn't want to put it on a discount just to sell the car that has had a lot of buyers test drive like they can do with their SI and base civics.
 

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the problem is the potential buyers. The potential buyers of these cars doesn't want one that has been test driven.

And the dealer doesn't want to put it on a discount just to sell the car that has had a lot of buyers test drive like they can do with their SI and base civics.
What this guy said...I know myself and lots of other buyers didnt even want the dealers touching them to put gas in them. We sure dont want ones that are test Driven.
Plus, and I know this gonna get some people upset, the only ones bitchin about no test drives are the ones not gonna buy it anyway. They mad cause cant go tear around in a car and have free fun. Their excuses are silly. About 85 percent or even more of type R buyers didnt get a test drive and none are complaining. If you are gonna buy the car. Test drive or not, you are gonna buy the car. When I went to buy mine it was final I was buying it regardless. Test drives are mostly for non buyers to go play and dealers know it.
 
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What this guy said...I know myself and lots of other buyers didnt even want the dealers touching them to put gas in them. We sure dont want ones that are test Driven.
Plus, and I know this gonna get some people upset, the only ones bitchin about no test drives are the ones not gonna buy it anyway. They mad cause cant go tear around in a car and have free fun. Their excuses are silly. About 85 percent or even more of type R buyers didnt get a test drive and none are complaining. If you are gonna buy the car. Test drive or not, you are gonna buy the car. When I went to buy mine it was final I was buying it regardless. Test drives are mostly for non buyers to go play and dealers know it.
Heck I’ll take a test driven one if it comes with a discount. I know a lot of companies send test cars and then sell them later discounted. Volvo does this a lot. Also I want to test drive it before I buy it to see if I’m making a mistake. I would hope you visit a house, look inside, have it inspected, do some research before buying it. The cost is not on the same level, $36,000 is still not a small amount.
 

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Heck I’ll take a test driven one if it comes with a discount. I know a lot of companies send test cars and then sell them later discounted. Volvo does this a lot.
See thats it, test driven cars people want discounts on. Dealers arent gonna discount these. They also only get a few a year so they arent gonna be given a test drive car to sell 5
 


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Heck I’ll take a test driven one if it comes with a discount. I know a lot of companies send test cars and then sell them later discounted. Volvo does this a lot.
thats what the dealer probably doesn't want to do like i mentioned above ...
the problem is the potential buyers. The potential buyers of these cars doesn't want one that has been test driven.

And the dealer doesn't want to put it on a discount just to sell the car that has had a lot of buyers test drive like they can do with their SI and base civics.
I would gladly take a test driven one too if there was a discount on them. You sure wouldn't pay full price for a test driven car though right?
You have to think about it from some dealers perspective. Why give test drives to people and sell it for a discount when they can probably just find a buyer who is willing to buy one without it for full price.

i do not agree with this but it is what it is.
 
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All I’m saying is that there are 438 2019’s for sale right now. It is not a limited supply. These cars are apparently great, but am I supposed to trust the testimonials of you guys or Doug Demuro or car and driver? Or do I trust myself spending my own money.
 

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All I’m saying is that there are 438 2019’s for sale right now. It is not a limited supply. These cars are apparently great, but am I supposed to trust the testimonials of you guys or Doug Demuro or car and driver? Or do I trust myself spending my own money.
The dealerships make their money on volume, not on the selling price of any one car. As a result, it is in their best interest to keep the 1 or 2 R's that they get per year in mint condition and place them in the showroom where they can act as marketing showpieces to help them sell their other cars. They then set the price of them high enough so that if they do have to sell the R's, they ensure a healthy profit.

The point that you're missing is that selling Type R's isn't their goal. They simply don't get enough of them to make a financial difference. The dealerships are far more incentivized to use them as perfect, polished marketing displays. If they start accumulating more than 1 or 2 of them, they can always offer one of them for only a small markup and it will quickly sell sight unseen.

I'm not saying that you're wrong to want to test drive one before you buy it. I'm saying that they have zero incentive to let you do so. Find a used car dealership that has one on the lot and show up with a button down shirt, slacks and nice shoes. The odds are, they'll let you test drive it - it worked for me.
 
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All I’m saying is that there are 438 2019’s for sale right now. It is not a limited supply. These cars are apparently great, but am I supposed to trust the testimonials of you guys or Doug Demuro or car and driver? Or do I trust myself spending my own money.
I do understand what you are saying. Although I didn't test drive mine, I can understand why you would want to before purchasing the car.
But you have to look at it from their eyes. They have no reason to take you on a test drive on a car that another person would probably buy without one and tbh, they'd rather sell base civics and accords over trying to get a CTR sale.
 

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All I’m saying is that there are 438 2019’s for sale right now. It is not a limited supply. These cars are apparently great, but am I supposed to trust the testimonials of you guys or Doug Demuro or car and driver? Or do I trust myself spending my own money.
I get that it seems crazy to not allow a test drive, but why would a dealership allow them when the cars are selling (for more than MSRP) without them?
Give it a couple years. If they're still making them, you'll probably be able to get a test drive without issue.
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