To those who moved on from Civic X Si...

Royal_Purple_Oil_Filter said:

No, the K20C2 will never run circles around the XSE's 2.5L that produces 206 HP and 186 lb-ft of torque and these power figures are indeed comparable to the Si's 205 HP and 192 lb-ft, and may I remind you that you won't get carbon buildup on the 2.5L so less maintenance for not needing valve cleaning and you don't need to go for long routes or do drive on weekends just for the sake to manage the oil dilution.

And the new Corolla's new 2.0L indeed eclipsed the K20C2 as it is more efficient in city and combined numbers while making more power.

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Hondaman_MI said:

https://autoweek.com/article/car-reviews/2018-toyota-camry-se-essentials-mostly-good-few-exceptions

"But then there’s the transmission, which needs an exorcism.

Remember, this is the SE trim -- the sporty model -- and its agonizing transmission programming suggests the LE will be almost undrivable. In D, the car seems to upshift to fourth by 20 mph, and any attempt to accelerate is met with a yawn and multiple downshifts. It's like piloting a steamship; you have to call down to the engine room for more power, then wait for the boilers to respond. S mode holds gears slightly longer and behaves more like a regular transmission, but then it seems to stop upshifting at 4th gear unless the driver uses the shift paddles (a truly laughable accessory on this car) to set the top gear. The result: Neither mode is adequate as-programmed for regular around-town driving."

The Camry isn't perfect, I've spent time on that forum, they have complaints about everything under the sun, including the sluggish transmission that lurches. If you go on any car forum, you're going to see complaints...

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jred721 said:

Sorry, but thats just wrong. For starters, a 2.5 camry clocks a 0-60 at 7.9 seconds according to car and driver. A 6MT K20C2 doesnt beat it by much, but it still beats it. A CVT K20C2 is a tad bit slower, but not by much. The camry is a much heavier vehicle than a Civic, so despite all that extra power, it still performs similarly to a 2.0 Civic because of its weight. An Si will run circles around a 2.5 Camry all day long, period. Performance wise, an Si is better in every measurable way. If you go with the V6 though, its a different story in a straight line although I would hope so since it has 2 more cylinders and double the displacement. A 2.5 camry isnt bad, but its certainly not faster or even comparable to an Si.

As for the Corolla, you're wrong again. A 2.0 CVT corolla despite of it's extra power and real first gear, runs a 0-60 of 8.5-8.6 seconds while a K20C2 CVT Civic does it in about 8-8.1 seconds. Not to mention that's its just a better car to drive in general. Fact is, Toyota didnt do anything great with their 2.0 engine and im still taking the K20 all day long. The manual corolla is almost a second faster though, but Honda's 1.5 turbo in any configuration still beats that too.

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Blindeye_03 said:

8.2 seconds here

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a15101602/2016-honda-civic-20l-cvt-test-review/

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nothome17 said:

I too have been trying to keep in the know with Toyota and Honda forums. Wife test drive both Civic 2.0 and Corolla and she went with the Corolla sedan. Wifey preferred NA motors since she liked the linear power band. Would of gone with the Civic 2.0 but wifey liked the sitting position on the Corolla. She still has her 2006 TSX manual which she still loves to drive but needed another DD since the TSX is getting old.

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BoostedSiCoupe said:

you sound very beta, dude.

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