TPMS woes

wildbilly32 · Apr 2, 2019

Did a search. Didn't find much related to my issue. Stock 2019 CTR with less than 120 miles(Yeah I know "DRIVE MORE!". A few weeks back at a around 60 total mileage got the tire pressure warning. Checked tires with a viscous fluid filled gauge(very accurate) and found all tires down one or two pounds. Refilled to the door indicated 35 front-33 rear. Did the TPMS recalibration deal. Yesterday within a few blocks of home at around 116 total mileage got the low tire warning again. Next stop walked around and all tires looked fine. When I got home checked with same gauge after tires had cooled down and all tires dead nutz on! 35 front-33 rear! Did recalibration. If it does it again I'm calling Honda. Any others experience this??

neveronline · Apr 2, 2019

reset it. get in the car and calibrate it three times in row, then go for a short drive and it should be fine. If not go to the dealer

RedGiant217 · Apr 2, 2019

Only thing to add is that per Honda instructions, you should wait at least 5 seconds between the 3 consecutive re-calibrations.

This screenshot from the service website explains what you're experiencing.

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Arcam · Apr 2, 2019

It is a pretty sh1t system IMHO, very cheapo on Honda's part for what it would have cost to put a proper system in.

My wife shreaded a rear tyre last week after the "TPMS" system went off for the 6th time, this time she just kept driving and of course it was a real alert this time!

I have installed an aftermarket system now that works just fine.

FK8_K20c1 · Apr 2, 2019

This is what worked for me. I grabbed a weather app and whatched the temperatures across the current week. Then with the lowest temp day and the hot day. I calibrated the tires so when its cold in temps outside the tire has at least the specified tire pressure from the door label and when hot that I never pass the max tire pressure. Once I sweet spot that never had an issue. Now on Spring temps are warming up and TPMS is triggering and it will until temps stabilizes. For every 10 degrees up/down in F the psi of the tire will go up or down in 1 psi increments.

Poweredbyhonda · Apr 2, 2019

wildbilly32 said:
Did a search. Didn't find much related to my issue. Stock 2019 CTR with less than 120 miles(Yeah I know "DRIVE MORE!". A few weeks back at a around 60 total mileage got the tire pressure warning. Checked tires with a viscous fluid filled gauge(very accurate) and found all tires down one or two pounds. Refilled to the door indicated 35 front-33 rear. Did the TPMS recalibration deal. Yesterday within a few blocks of home at around 116 total mileage got the low tire warning again. Next stop walked around and all tires looked fine. When I got home checked with same gauge after tires had cooled down and all tires dead nutz on! 35 front-33 rear! Did recalibration. If it does it again I'm calling Honda. Any others experience this??

I had similar problem. Went off 1st day I had the car, pressure was low so I filled it up. The light went off again twice a week later, pressure was fine so I just reset it. Haven’t had a problem since. I’ve only driven 800 miles so we’ll see if the problem comes back.

RedGiant217 · Apr 2, 2019

Arcam said:
It is a pretty sh1t system IMHO, very cheepo on Honda's part for what it would have cost to put a proper system in.

My wife shreaded a rear tyre last week after the "TPMS" system went off for the 6th time, this time she just kept driving and of course it was a real alert this time!

I have installed an aftermarket system now that works just fine.

Pretty sad that the techs aren't being trained on the proper PDI procedures...

.grimace · Apr 2, 2019

Arcam said:
It is a pretty sh1t system IMHO, very cheepo on Honda's part for what it would have cost to put a proper system in.

My wife shreaded a rear tyre last week after the "TPMS" system went off for the 6th time, this time she just kept driving and of course it was a real alert this time!

I have installed an aftermarket system now that works just fine.

See I look at it the other way, I LOVE that they did it at least on the CTR so I don't have to buy sensors for new wheels

remc86007 · Apr 2, 2019

The reset and calibrate it three times thing fixed my issues with it. I would still prefer actual sensors, but once I start swapping wheels to track the car, I might feel differently.

MonkeyConQueso · Apr 2, 2019

I think the faux-TPMS system is crappy, but useable. And I also love the fact that I don't have to buy sensors for new wheels, and swap the sensor IDs every freaking time...

But for the general users out there who don't pay attention to their tire pressure every fill-up, having the sensors would have been much better.

yargk · Apr 2, 2019

I had to recalibrate twice (about 50-100 miles apart) with new wheels, but it never bothered me after the 2nd recalibration.

Groundcontrol · Apr 3, 2019

I had my TPMS sensor go off when driving the car home from the dealership when they didn't do the calibration during the PDI. The reason mine kept going off was due to not following the instructions in the owners manual. The tire pressure that is listed in the door frame is the cold tire pressure. That requires the car to not be driven for at least 3 hours to cool them down and then driving less than a mile if you are going to a place to air them up. What I did was air them up the night before so I knew I would be above the numbers in the door frame once they cooled down overnight. Then when I got up in the morning, I aired down the tires to the proper pressure, did the calibration through the head unit and then drove to work. It didn't go off again until the tires got rotated so I went through the process again.

wildbilly32 · Apr 3, 2019

Groundcontrol said:
I had my TPMS sensor go off when driving the car home from the dealership when they didn't do the calibration during the PDI. The reason mine kept going off was due to not following the instructions in the owners manual. The tire pressure that is listed in the door frame is the cold tire pressure. That requires the car to not be driven for at least 3 hours to cool them down and then driving less than a mile if you are going to a place to air them up. What I did was air them up the night before so I knew I would be above the numbers in the door frame once they cooled down overnight. Then when I got up in the morning, I aired down the tires to the proper pressure, did the calibration through the head unit and then drove to work. It didn't go off again until the tires got rotated so I went through the process again.

Why would a rotation upset the system?? Same tires same pressures!! This system just seems overly complicated to me. Actual tire pressure sensors seem to be much easier and I've never had issues with them on other cars. Just because something can be done doesn't mean it should be done. Technology run amok!!

Groundcontrol · Apr 3, 2019

wildbilly32 said:
Why would a rotation upset the system?? Same tires same pressures!! This system just seems overly complicated to me. Actual tire pressure sensors seem to be much easier and I've never had issues with them on other cars. Just because something can be done doesn't mean it should be done. Technology run amok!!

The front tires are set to 35 PSI and the rears are 32 PSI, if I remember correctly. Moving them from front to back would make the TPMS system see that change as the same tire being 2-3 PSI lower or higher all of a sudden and trip the alert. We are calling it a TPMS system but it really is an indirect TPMS since instead of using sensors in the valve stems to determine the tire pressure (direct TPMS), it uses the ABS/VSA speed sensor to determine if the tire is suddenly revolving slower or faster. If it sees a change, then it trips the alert on your dash.

Honda tried the indirect system on some of their cars a while back and didn't quite get it right and went back to direct TPMS. I guess they are confident enough that they have worked out the system to bring it back again.

wildbilly32 · Apr 3, 2019

Groundcontrol said:
The front tires are set to 35 PSI and the rears are 32 PSI, if I remember correctly. Moving them from front to back would make the TPMS system see that change as the same tire being 2-3 PSI lower or higher all of a sudden and trip the alert. We are calling it a TPMS system but it really is an indirect TPMS since instead of using sensors in the valve stems to determine the tire pressure (direct TPMS), it uses the ABS/VSA speed sensor to determine if the tire is suddenly revolving slower or faster. If it sees a change, then it trips the alert on your dash.

Honda tried the indirect system on some of their cars a while back and didn't quite get it right and went back to direct TPMS. I guess they are confident enough that they have worked out the system to bring it back again.

Got it on rotation. I did the calibrate three times deal. Next time it triggers I'm going to cover the dash cluster with duct tape!

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