Dealer inflated tires to 50+ psi in a 2019 hatch

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Drove around like this for three days before I got a new pressure gauge and was messing around with it. I had been surprised at hard it hit bumps in the road and had lost traction on a little ice a couple of times, but didn't think it was that out of the ordinary until I saw how overinflated the tires were. Can anyone imagine why they'd do this? Is there any sense to it or is it just an overzealous service tech that possibly thinks all tires should be inflated to their max spec?
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Drove around like this for three days before I got a new pressure gauge and was messing around with it. I had been surprised at hard it hit bumps in the road and had lost traction on a little ice a couple of times, but didn't think it was that out of the ordinary until I saw how overinflated the tires were. Can anyone imagine why they'd do this? Is there any sense to it or is it just an overzealous service tech that possibly thinks all tires should be inflated to their max spec?
Overinflated tires wear faster, but I don't think they'd do that. It could possibly have been for some obscure reason, but who really knows? Maybe somebody didn't care on their shift.
 

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it's not that the dealer did that. its that they DIDN'T deflate them to the proper spec.
 

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Drove around like this for three days before I got a new pressure gauge and was messing around with it. I had been surprised at hard it hit bumps in the road and had lost traction on a little ice a couple of times, but didn't think it was that out of the ordinary until I saw how overinflated the tires were. Can anyone imagine why they'd do this? Is there any sense to it or is it just an overzealous service tech that possibly thinks all tires should be inflated to their max spec?
Tires are over inflated when leaving the factory, for transportation, because with harder, inflated tires, the car can be strapped down more securely for transportation.

The DEALER is meant to follow a Incoming Inspection, AND a before sale inspection, one item being to check & set tire pressures to recommended pressures.

Some "Naughty" dealers purposely UNDERFLATE the tires of cars on the lot, so when they are taken for a test drive, the ride is "Softer" !!

It looks like your Dealer ( LIKE MINE) did NEITHER.. which is worrying !!
Another thing they should check in BOTH inspections is the wheel nut Torques.

80-85 ft/Lbs I think I recall ??

When I got my new 2018 Si home, I checked my tire pressures and wheel nut torques.
Tires were as low as 18 and as high as 26
Wheel nuts were from about 50 to 90 !!
Oil was overfilled, up to the top of the Orange Marker -- a full 1/4 Quarts above MAX.

I am sure I am not the only one !!
 

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Overinflated tires wear faster, but I don't think they'd do that. It could possibly have been for some obscure reason, but who really knows? Maybe somebody didn't care on their shift.
The wear faster in the center part of the tread if overinflated and on the outer part of the tread if underinflated correct?
 


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Mine were around 50psi as well on delivery.
I usually run over recommended pressure but not that much. The only reason I noticed was I was going to pump them up.
 

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When I picked up mine it was set at 55psi, I was wondering why my tire light came on in the middle of May after 100 miles of driving
 

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When I picked up mine it was set at 55psi, I was wondering why my tire light came on in the middle of May after 100 miles of driving
You guys who are picking up new cars from Dealers with ridiculously high Tire Pressures -- have any of you got an explanation from the dealer WHY they are letting you drive off their lot in a NEW Car, with such high tire pressures, and why they were not not correctly adjusted during any of the Dealer Inspections, particularly, the "Pre-Sale" Inspection. ? :dunno:

If that "simple" check was not done, how many other things were not "Checked" with the car -- but still "Checked off" on the now meaningless piece of paper called "Dealer's Pre-Sale Checklist" that is meant to come with the new car.

( I saw the form up on the Honda Service site, but cannot google search it .. next time I am on the Service site, I'll grab a copy)
 

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You guys who are picking up new cars from Dealers with ridiculously high Tire Pressures -- have any of you got an explanation from the dealer WHY they are letting you drive off their lot in a NEW Car, with such high tire pressures, and why they were not not correctly adjusted during any of the Dealer Inspections, particularly, the "Pre-Sale" Inspection. ? :dunno:

If that "simple" check was not done, how many other things were not "Checked" with the car -- but still "Checked off" on the now meaningless piece of paper called "Dealer's Pre-Sale Checklist" that is meant to come with the new car.

( I saw the form up on the Honda Service site, but cannot google search it .. next time I am on the Service site, I'll grab a copy)
Yeah. Laziness
 


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You guys who are picking up new cars from Dealers with ridiculously high Tire Pressures -- have any of you got an explanation from the dealer WHY they are letting you drive off their lot in a NEW Car, with such high tire pressures, and why they were not not correctly adjusted during any of the Dealer Inspections, particularly, the "Pre-Sale" Inspection. ? :dunno:

If that "simple" check was not done, how many other things were not "Checked" with the car -- but still "Checked off" on the now meaningless piece of paper called "Dealer's Pre-Sale Checklist" that is meant to come with the new car.

( I saw the form up on the Honda Service site, but cannot google search it .. next time I am on the Service site, I'll grab a copy)
NOPE... got the classic blame the technician routine - "Oh, they must have accidentally overfilled, we apologize"
 

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Yeah unfortunatly the factory overinflates them for shipping ad it helps prevent flat spots from forming if the vehicle sits. If the tech doing the PDI is lazy they wont always deflate to 32.

Also ive heard the argument from other techs that since the car will prblly sit on their lot for a few months its best to leave them inflated at factory 40-50 to prevent flat spots.

Letting it leave the lot after delivery this way however, is unacceptable.
 

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Yupp I picked up my new 2019 Si two weeks ago and it was 45+ psi all around. They overlooked this during the PDI... But yes, they have high PSI because it fights the chances of flat spots when it sits at the plant and then at the lot.
 

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WARNING : Long Rant about useless Dealers --

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If the Dealer cannot even complete a simple PDI, and check something as simple as Tire Pressure, what does that say for more complex tasks ???

It's not as if it's an OPTIONAL thing -- Its there on the PDI for the express purpose of ensuring that the customer drives away with a car that is adjusted correctly - and is SAFE !!!

Not only were my Tire Pressures significantly higher than they should have been when we took delivery of our new 2018 Si from the Dealer, the wheel nuts were not torqued correctly -- some were high, some were almost 50% lower than they should have been !!

This was all items I knew about and how to check, and did so when we got teh car home, and made the necessary adjustments .. Effectively I did the whole PDI myself !!

What I was unaware of was the 10th Gen Civic's OD issues, so I did not pay too much attention to accurately checking the oil level, when we 1st got the car.

So after a few 1000 miles, I had no idea if the oil level had risen due to OD, and how much, because the original Oil level was most likely not set accurately, say at the Max mark.

When I did learn about OD, here on the forum, I checked the oil, and it was up just past the top of the orange plastic, I pumped Out oil, from the dip stick hole, till I was at the Max Line.

FYI: Max line to top of Orange Plastic = 1/2 Pint = 1/4 Quart.
If that extra 1/4 Quart was GAS, that would equate to about 6% OD, which is pushing the limit for oil viscosity integrity.

The extracted oil only had a faint smell of Gas, so I am assuming my driving habits are limiting the effects of OD, and the amount of gas concentration in my oil, and that the oil level was overfilled from day 1.

At least, with the oil now set to MAX LINE, I can monitor any changes in a accurate way.

BTW: OF course, no mention of OD was forthcoming from the sales people at the Dealer when I was looking at the Honda !!! -- The sales person was totally unaware that the Car did not have a spare,m till I pointed it out to her.

Dealers -- Incompetent, sales people who know little or nothing about the cars they are selling, totally incompetent and untrained Techs, and a finance dept whose only interest is to push as much unnecessary stuff onto the sale, to increase the Dealers Bottom line.

I believe that the Honda cars leaving the Honda factory, have a reasonably high level of Quality control, and are highly reliable, but as soon as they get into the Dealers hands, all that is destroyed, To many Dealers (no all, but far too high a number) are totally incompetent, and if you allow them to mess with your car, chances are they will screw it up, and then you are in the never ending cycle of having to return the Car to the Dealer for more incompetent "Hack" work.

A little strong -- maybe, but a lot is unfortunately true.

My Si is a late 2018.. it seems to be better than the ones made earlier that year, and from the 2017 ones, that seem to have all sorts of issues, especially with the Audio Systems.

The software in our Head Unit "appears" to be a significantly later version, than the version that Dealers seem to be currently updating "problem" car to.

Ref USB "UPDATE AUDIO SYSTEM" 07AAU-TBAA1A0 PURPLE (2016 CIVIC)

Which I assume is the latest Update USB for Civics cars that Basically have the 2016 Honda Audio systems !!!

Bottom Line: IN NO WAY is a Honda Dealer ever going to mess with, update, or do any work on my "Factory Fresh" Si, unless I am 100% sure I know Exactly what they are doing, and that they know how to do it.

FREE OIL Changes .. NO WAY - those are just an excuse to get your car back into their Service Shop, and to clock up a totally unnecessary bill, with thing that do NOT need to be messed with.

Finally, and I think this proves my point --
The whole "Noisy" A/C issue that so many are going through, and the inability of Dealers to even identify what is causing it, let alone fix it, is just a perfect example of why so many Dealers should just stick to selling cars, and get out of the Car Maintenance & Service business.

No doubt there are many GOOD, competent Dealers out there.. the task is to find a good one BEFORE you have an issue, and not just rely on the one that sold you the car.

I am going to have some FUN this spring, when the weather warms up a bit, "INTERVIEWING" for my Honda Service Dealership, when I am not under the pressure to accept whatever from a dealer, because have an issue that need to be urgently fixed.

It's going to be "FUN" like when buying the Car -- I will be back in Control, and can always walk out the door if I do not like what I see,

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