civic si pricing difference.

Every person sees these cars differently. You see more features for a similar price and you think "who would choose an Si". As a Honda Performance enthusiast, I see a platform that can easily be taken to the next level for a price lower than the competition. I see a platform with the potential to crush egos. I chose an Si because they're fun as hell to modify and for the price, you really can't beat it. I'm at Type R power levels with $15,000 more in my pocket. Sure it's not a Type R, but it sure is fun to hang with them performance-wise.

You don't have to drive an Si, but......

thatonedaveguy said:

Every model of the 10th gen Civic is a fantastic car. You can absolutely learn to drive stick if that's what you want to do. There's driving schools, youtube videos, video games, even an eager dealership salesman will teach you how on one of their cars, or you could buy a $500 old manual clunker car. You'll stall a good bit at first but a couple an hour in a parking lot and you'd be fine to drive it around and after a week you'll have a new skill for life.

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My Wife's Si is her 1st ever manual. She learned on her car and picked it up very quickly. It's never too late.

NoKz said:

My Wife's Si is her 1st ever manual. She learned on her car and picked it up very quickly. It's never too late.

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Yeah im working on getting someone to teach me. Both my parents know how to drive one so imma try to convince my dad to test drive a couple shitty manuals for practice

Lots of videos on YouTube go over the Ins and Outs of a manual. If you know the basic concept, then it's all about execution. Learning the clutch, rev matching, etc. It's very easy to do, just takes practice.

I learned to drive a manual by buying my first car and driving it the ~1 hour drive home.

My dad said good luck as he left in his car to drive home. He figured I'd make it back eventually (this was before I had a cell phone).

I did. Only stalled once or twice. Bucked like a damn horse though coming from a stop half the time though.

When your choice is go home or make a new home where you brought your car... you learn quick.

charleswrivers said:

I learned to drive a manual by buying my first car and driving it the ~1 hour drive home.

My dad said good luck as he left in his car to drive home. He figured I'd make it back eventually (this was before I had a cell phone).

I did. Only stalled once or twice. Bucked like a damn horse though coming from a stop half the time though.

When your choice is go home or make a new home where you brought your car... you learn quick.

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Don’t you end up wearing out the $300 clutch early doing that?

I find it crazy how Manual is completely irrelevant here but its a necessity accross the world. I went to the U.K couple months ago because I have family there and I wanted to rent a Minivan to drive up my family to Scotland, and the only available vehicle had a manual. Luckily even though I currently dont have a manual car in my fleet, Its like riding a bike so it wasnt an issue. Although, right hand drive + the manual did have a bit of a learning curve to it lol.

NoKz said:

I'm at Type R power levels with $15,000 more in my pocket. Sure it's not a Type R, but it sure is fun to hang with them performance-wise.

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Either you are not at Type R power level or you don't have that extra $15k in pocket. You have to pick one.

chandlervt said:

Either you are not at Type R power level or you don't have that extra $15k in pocket. You have to pick one.

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Getting to CTR levels of power does not cost anywhere near 15K. Although, I do think the 15K number is quite high assuming we are talking about the cost of the vehicle + mods to get to that power level.

jakdotdot said:

Getting to CTR levels of power does not cost anywhere near 15K. Although, I do think the 15K number is quite high assuming we are talking about the cost of the vehicle + mods to get to that power level.

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Most of the 15k is profit margins

chandlervt said:

Either you are not at Type R power level or you don't have that extra $15k in pocket. You have to pick one.

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• KTuner: $450
• TSP Stage 2 Tune: $120
• PRL Cobra CAI: $360
• KTuner Flex-Fuel Kit: $300
• PRL Catless DP & FP: $500
• Spec Stage 3 Clutch w/Steel SMF: $900

Sub-Total: $2,630

2018 Civic Si Coupe: $22,750 OTD (Paid Cash)

Grand Total: $25,380

2018 Civic Type R MSRP: $34,700
2018 Civic Type R Actual CA Price: $40,000

Rough Price Difference: $14,620

NoHonor937 said:

Don’t you end up wearing out the $300 clutch early doing that?

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The clutch in the Si's are such garbage, even if you know how to drive manual well, you'll end up swapping it out early. So it's perfect to learn on.

NoHonor937 said:

im expecting 1937432862327 replies...

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Hey! That's my phone number! It's not, really, but it's kind of close....

I test drove the EX-T a few months before the Si came out. I loved the look of the Civic and was in the market for something. I was looking at stuff like a Taurus SHO, Mazda 3, Nissan Maxima, and V6 Accord Coupes. While I was at the Honda dealer I drove the top end Civic and liked it a lot more than I expected to. I was premium tech and comfort for the money, was fun to drive, and I loved the Honda Sense tech. I then continued to drive some other stuff and always had the Civic in the back of my mind, mostly because it was less expensive than other stuff. Then one day I saw that black grill sitting at a stop light near work, and I saw the little red "Si" and I was like "Huh?" So I went to the dealer that day, drove a nice little white Si coupe. Was amazed at how quick and fun it was, then went and bought it a couple days later. While I like the EX-T a lot and it had a lot of features I thought were nice, I was aiming to buy something sporty and fun to throw around, especially because I was driving a grandma's (literally bought it from my grandma) Mercury Sable. I knew when I got on it, in the Si, and whipped it around some bends, that it was the right car. Si's are great. Tourings are great, LXs are garbage (I'm kidding, I don't care!) Civics are great!

NoHonor937 said:

Don’t you end up wearing out the $300 clutch early doing that?

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This would have been 20 years ago this year on a car that isn't a Civic (hence me not owning a cell phone at the time and being abandoned my by dad to figure it out and find my way home from Ocala, FL to Seville, FL.

But... so far as that, then, 14 year old 300zx turbo was concerned... no I didn't kill the clutch. I only had the car a couple years until it got totaled... but the clutch which may or may not have been the original lasted through out me learning to drive on it... then driving it like a 17-18 year old kid tends to do until it's demise.

I will admit... I had driven a tractor on the farm before so I wasn't 100% clueless on the existence of a clutch or shifter... and I assume my dad was confident enough I would be ok to effectively say, "Bye Felicia!" and abandon me to figure it out on me own. That... or my dad liked me less than I thought.