Front doors rattle when playing music. Honda Corp. won't insulate under warranty. WTF?

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I said the Civic is basically an econobox at heart. And in the world of cars in 2019, it is. It's a great econobox though. And remember, even in Honda's lineup, it's only one step above the Fit. The $35,000 Type R is still a Civic albeit an amazing performance version of a Civic.

Honda intentionally designed the Type R according to the OP to have less sound insulation in the doors for weight reduction. Realistically, if his car is to spec, dealers aren't going to throw in insulation from another model to "fix" it. Like another poster mentioned, that would open up another can of worms.

I'm sorry the OP's is getting this rattle. Sorry he feels like Honda isn't handling it properly. But the bottom line is, just take it to an audio place or add soundproofing yourself and be done with it.

I spent $25 grand on my EX-L and have a few rattles here and there. I know from owning many cars over the years that taking my car in to fix rattles is a waste. My solution ironically, is to crank the stereo up. ;)
35-40k for a car is not anywhere near cheap. That’s over $500 a month which many many many people cannot afford. I think it should’ve came with full insulation but if they really believe that those extra 10 lbs of insulation is gonna hurt your times then just remove the front lips and side skirts.
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35-40k for a car is not anywhere near cheap. That’s over $500 a month which many many many people cannot afford. I think it should’ve came with full insulation but if they really believe that those extra 10 lbs of insulation is gonna hurt your times then just remove the front lips and side skirts.
Might as well remove the 'premium' sound system too. What's the point if it's just rattley
 

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Might as well remove the 'premium' sound system too. What's the point if it's just rattley
I don’t believe it was supposed to rattle. It’s possible he has his bass too high as well. I put my bass and sub at 0 to prevent anything like this from happening. Vibrations from bass can loosen a lot of things up. We use vibrations in a bowl feeder to self feed loops to us. It’s fucken cool to watch.
 
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I don’t believe it was supposed to rattle. It’s possible he has his bass too high as well. I put my bass and sub at 0 to prevent anything like this from happening. Vibrations from bass can loosen a lot of things up. We use vibrations in a bowl feeder to self feed loops to us. It’s fucken cool to watch.
Bass and sub at 0? Half the song wouldn't wouldn't be audible
 

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Bass and sub at 0? Half the song wouldn't wouldn't be audible
So traditionally bass is either positive or negative and right in the middle would be 0. I keep both there cause I believe that’s what the factory tuned it to.
 


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So traditionally bass is either positive or negative and right in the middle would be 0. I keep both there cause I believe that’s what the factory tuned it to.
Are the Civic Sub even in an enclosure ?? Must admit I have not yet even looked.
I assume it's there... but I am not sure I can really hear it in any case !!!

If you run a Big Sub, at high power, and it is not in an enclosure , or the enclosure is too big, you will blow the cone mounting out !!! Maybe that not a consideration for the Honda Premium system Sub, it's so under powered !!

Any Rattles should not be that difficult to locate and correct.
If you have rattles, they can normally be fixed, either by you, or by paying a Car Audio shop to do the work for you.

yes, it would be nice if the car did not rattle from new, but they can, so rather than wasting time & energy getting upset about it, just go ahead and get it fixed to your satisfaction.

The Civic was "designed" to be "Modded" and "Finished off" by the Owner :)


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Are you joking, or just mentally handicapped? You are saying this is "adding to the Forum"????

Dude ... Let me answer you in language that you might understand :-


WTH -- With that F@#KING attitude, no wonder the F@#King dealer would do F@#K about your F@#king car !!

What the F#$K do you F@#King expect. The F#$King rattles are not a F#$King Warranty F#$king item.

So F#$King fix the F@#King rattles your F#$KING self, like every other F@#King owners does.
If I were in front of you and you talked to people like this, I can assure you would be unconscious on the ground. In fact, go ahead and give me your address and I'll pay out of my pocket to come teach you a lesson you old punk. A 69yo man acting like you do is pathetic!

And please, you're really comparing "thanks"???? Well if you were smart (which is obviously not the case), you'd realize the number of "thanks" isn't what is important - it is the rate of thanks. You see, you've posted 1,066 times, and just a measley 437 thanks. That's a rate of only 1 "thanks" for every 2.44 posts (i.e. not that good). Meanwhile, I've posted 198 times and have been thanked 125 times, for a rate of 1 'thanks' for every 1.5 posts. Clearly, I am the one posting more constructive substance by the rate of thanks given. So you are actually worse off. But hey, thanks for bringing your paltry thanks rate to our attention.

So GTF outta here. But first give me your address.

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NM you douche, it was super easy to find you online. How's Ms. Drayson, nee Milan? I'm about going to have a great deal of fun at your expense. Hope you're ready to get what you deserve, Mr. Big Talk. Maybe you'll learn not to be a dick on the internet.
 
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You think I'm joking? Keep laughing. I know way more about you in 10 minutes than you can imagine. This is about to get fun. (For me, sorry not sorry).
Bro, this is a forum and people are supposed to take as well as receive advice preferably and on occasion perhaps criticism. But it goes both ways. While I liked the math behind your comparison of # of posts & thanks(numbers don’t lie and are glorious), I think overall you got off point which is always unfortunate to the mass of readers out there. Well if it isn’t obvious, I actually have a keen interest in the topic at hand to wit:

Honda in my estimation wants your car to go in chosen vectors well while controlling vertical and horizontal forces namely vía use of a traditional engine, suspension, and brake system, and to do this reliably over years of time. Everything else to them is apparently irrelevant to them. My seat comfort, visibility, noise comfort, and other concerns of ergonomics does not apparently register with Honda of America. This is historically the case. In 1990 I received my first new car, a 1990 Integra(5 sp) which followed a rather boring used 1982 Accord(auto). At that time, I modded the stereo and complained incessantly to myself about how noisy and rattle-y the engine was and later the ride to some extent. Being so young, I lacked knowledge on sound insulation or just about anything other than the go pedal, clutch, and steering wheel. Eventually, the car found its way out of my hands and complain about the car I could no longer do.

What manufacturers do is create and sell cars. They don’t work a restaurant with a chef or cook who can creatively address your eating concerns and needs. In fact, no creative designer or engineer works at car dealerships. Comfort is irrelevant to them as well unless it involves replacing a defective seat, or in the case of the audio, replacing a defective loudspeaker.

To date, I have spent over a 200 hours modifying my ‘17 Civic for namely sound, acoustics, and comfort. Every panel of the car has been modded to achieve what I want. I’m still working on the seat. Who knows if I will ever be done. If I had purchased a Golf or GTI, I would have been saved a lot of this. But I absolutely hate cars breaking down and depreciating rapidly as well. So, I soldier on with my Civic modding and modding and modding it to much annoyance of my parents and friends.
 


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For what it is worth.....

Where I test drive a car I always take some music on a flash drive. Drives them crazy. I test the sound system based on what I like and oh do I have good music to test. Deep base from Pipe Organ to other pieces. Somewhat of an audiophile, and I am not into changing out the whole radio/speakers. Is it adequate? For me, the Touring was fine. 2019 no rattles. But I am old and I don't listen to music at high volume. Mostly Classical/Opera. In the past I have gutted a car and replaced everything for sound. Not today. The Civic is not that bad at least mine. Beats some luxury cars I have owned. But then again, nothing is perfect. It does not compare to Macintosh tubes and B&W speakers.
 

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For what it is worth.....

Where I test drive a car I always take some music on a flash drive. Drives them crazy. I test the sound system based on what I like and oh do I have good music to test. Deep base from Pipe Organ to other pieces. Somewhat of an audiophile, and I am not into changing out the whole radio/speakers. Is it adequate? For me, the Touring was fine. 2019 no rattles. But I am old and I don't listen to music at high volume. Mostly Classical/Opera. In the past I have gutted a car and replaced everything for sound. Not today. The Civic is not that bad at least mine. Beats some luxury cars I have owned. But then again, nothing is perfect. It does not compare to Macintosh tubes and B&W speakers.
I'm personally unimpressed with the Civic's sound quality. My '15 Camry SE had a better sound system in it that was more on the warmer side, bass simply had more presence and depth. Both of which are lacking in my civic. If I boost the volume, I'll get more bass out, but I don't want to go to that particular extreme. I listen using Apple CarPlay at volume levels of 8-10.
 

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Bass and sub at 0? Half the song wouldn't wouldn't be audible
Hello I have bass and treble at +3 on civic 1.5T and it also rattles... volume at 12-14 is as high as I go
 

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Its sad that the dealers wont help you out. I work for a dealer and we do rattles everyday even though they are tough to reproduce we try our best. To help you reproduce bass rattle you can download bass frequency apps which are great for testing rattles. You hook your phone to the car via bluetooth or cable run the app and adjust frequency until it starts to rattle then u can get constant rattle and detection becomes way easier. This app is just frequency no music. Idont renember name at the moment . Please search apps. Hope this can help anyone with rattles in future
 

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Its sad that the dealers wont help you out. I work for a dealer and we do rattles everyday even though they are tough to reproduce we try our best. To help you reproduce bass rattle you can download bass frequency apps which are great for testing rattles. You hook your phone to the car via bluetooth or cable run the app and adjust frequency until it starts to rattle then u can get constant rattle and detection becomes way easier. This app is just frequency no music. Idont renember name at the moment . Please search apps. Hope this can help anyone with rattles in future
The one I use is Frequency Generator
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.keuwl.functiongenerator&hl=en

It has many nice features, like being able to put different frequencies on Left & right, as well as being able to alter the phase between left & right.
Has a nice Sweep function, as well as a manual one. Pink & white noise, sine & square waves.
While you do not necessarily need to use all these functions, you can just run it as a basic Frequency generator, the added functions can help in isolating Audio issues, as well as those elusive rattles.
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