Your Dont need a Volume Knob!

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That's such a weak argument. There's a long list of reasons cars were better than horses. On the other hand, this thread has only produced one single reason the touch buttons on the headunit are better than a knob, and it was a really minor one (a minuscule cost savings). You're basically arguing that we should be happy with changes that bring nothing but disadvantages.
Talk about moving the goalposts. The statement "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" means that said item is broken. Meaning it works so very little as to be inconsequential or not at all. This is not the same as change or improvement, hence my argument. Although change for the sake of change is nearly pointless, assuming that the designers and engineers of a multi-billion dollar product for a multi-billion dollar corporation are idiots for changing the volume control is a bit overwrought here. I believe they sincerely did it as an improvement and not simply to ruin everyone's experience of owning their Honda Civic. Personally, I like the new steering wheel volume control and don't really care where the knob went.
I'd like to also point out that other car manufacturers got to the point of removing physical volume controls before Honda did. Would anyone on this forum like to chime in with their experience on owning a Tesla product, or a Porsche with the touchscreen HUD, or any of the other cars with no volume knob?
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on my 9th gen civic i never used the knob i jused the slider. so when i got my 2016 civic. i was already used to it. but i guess i can see how some folks are still used to having a physical knob. i mean i know a few folks who still wish there iphone had a physical keyboard lol..
 

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on my 9th gen civic i never used the knob i jused the slider. so when i got my 2016 civic. i was already used to it. but i guess i can see how some folks are still used to having a physical knob. i mean i know a few folks who still wish there iphone had a physical keyboard lol..
Samsung even made a (terrible) accessory for the note 5 that gave it a physical keyboard. It didn't work well at all, and it was ugly as sin, but they made it.
 

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Samsung even made a (terrible) accessory for the note 5 that gave it a physical keyboard. It didn't work well at all, and it was ugly as sin, but they made it.
Simple...as is its not optimal and poorly designed...surprising for a company that was once known for simple,useful dash design. Somewhere along the line they lost their way in some respects.

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Simple...as is its not optimal and poorly designed...surprising for a company that was once known for simple,useful dash design. Somewhere along the line they lost their way in some respects.

R
humm i actually think this new dash is more simpler than the older 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 gen civic's. as you know the last 9th gen had a 2 tier dash. that was not simple at all. this new design is much better.
 


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Is possible to install an aftermarket audio system and still have the backup camera feature?
 

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humm i actually think this new dash is more simpler than the older 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 gen civic's. as you know the last 9th gen had a 2 tier dash. that was not simple at all. this new design is much better.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3W7DvRRiAOQ#t=270
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http://www.edmunds.com/honda/civic/2016/road-test.html
What About Infotainment and Other Technology Features?

Here, the Civic receives less-than-stellar grades. We continued to be frequently irritated by Honda's touchscreen interface. It can be too slow to respond, some icons are too small and you're too often required to go from one menu to another. The lack of a volume knob is constantly frustrating, while the lack of a tuning knob would be forgiven if Honda provided a way to direct tune the radio. It doesn't, so you're left pecking the screen's virtual tuning "button" like an infuriated chicken when you want to find a new station.

Then there's the availability of Apple CarPlay and Android Auto, which allows for familiar smartphone control. It's a good addition in theory, and we've found it useful in the Volkswagen Jetta and other cars, but the transition between the Apple/Android and Honda system is particularly clunky and confusing. The system also utterly refused to play a podcast from an iPhone whether using CarPlay or through the Honda media interface.



http://www.civicx.com/threads/autoblog-2016-honda-civic-review-a-return-to-form.430/
I'm not alone in being happy that Honda has ditched the two-screen idiom, and found the optional seven-inch Display Audio system with its touchscreen easy to grasp quickly. You still have to make do with the horrible, unresponsive volume control on the head unit though, or, as I did just about every time, use the weird thumb switch on the steering wheel to turn the stereo up or down.


http://www.civicx.com/threads/consumer-reports-2016-honda-civic-proves-more-upscale-and-refined.441/
EX and higher versions get Honda’s annoying capacitive touchscreen—a flat surface with no physical knobs or buttons. We’ve complained about the slowness and the convoluted menu structure of the system before, including how many tasks require at least two taps.


http://www.civicx.com/threads/motor-trend-2016-honda-civic-review-return-of-the-rabble-rouser.436/
Note the lack of a volume-control knob—a deal-breaker for some.


http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2016-honda-civic-sedan-15l-turbo-test-review
I drove the EX-T and liked the engine but I am considering the LX because I'd rather have a volume knob than infotainment.


A few of many. I guess all the car reviews are done by old fashioned, close minded idiots too.

http://www.civicx.com/threads/2016-honda-civic-reviews-compilation.422/
 
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Honda already has a solution for those people who hate touch sensitive volume and steering wheel volume controls. It's called the LX. ;)
You are too funny! One of the best featured of the EX T is the audio system. The slider on the steering wheel makes the lack of a knob easier to deal with.
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A few of many. I guess all the car reviews are done by old fashioned, close minded idiots too.

http://www.civicx.com/threads/2016-honda-civic-reviews-compilation.422/
Prior to taking ownership of my Civic Touring last week, I somewhat got the feeling that all the videos and written reviews were piling on each other and in the end were all saying the same thing with little or no new information or original things to say. In other words, no parity. I found that somewhat interesting - not right or wrong - just interesting. Many of the reviews "harped" on the lack of a volume knob but had very little else negative to say about this generation of Civic. I guess that is a good thing!

I mean, there is even parity here on CivicX. Some of us are (more than) OK with the lack of a volume knob and some of us think it is the worst design flaw ever. So why is it that (a majority of) the reviewers always came down on this generation Civic for a lack of volume knob? It is really that horrible of an omission in the big picture of what makes the Civic a Civic? I don't get the sense that all the reviewers out there, both professional ones and the more amateurish ones, are experts in interior car design and ergonomics. It felt like one reviewer watched another review's video, saw that they mentioned something about the lack of a volume knob, and felt obligated to mention it in their review too - for better or for worse.

I know that each and every one of us, when providing an elevator pitch / review of our new cars to friends and acquaintances will likely have different positive and negative things to say. For example, the lack of a volume knob would not be a negative to me, but I would probably mention (and have mentioned) the lack of integrated HomeLink support and a sunglasses holder as unfortunate omissions in the 2016 Civic.

Or maybe I, and others, are the "closed minded idiots" and cannot see the obvious design flaw that is the lack of a volume knob. Ah...the beauty of being humans - we all have our own opinion on things and none of us are right or wrong.

Truth be told I (and others) love the nice, clean look of the Infotainment screen and the volume buttons both there and on the steering wheel are more than functional. I came from an 2006 Honda Pilot where I had replaced the stock radio with a Pioneer 4000NEX which had tiny little volume buttons on it. I hated them because a) they didn't look very good and b) they also were not easy to use. In addition, installing the Pioneer headunit also took out my steering wheel mounted controls so the headunit was the only way I could interact with it. It wasn't a great experience but life went on.

At the end of the day, to each their own. No one if right and no one is wrong - we like what we like.

RC
 


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A mute button on the steering wheel would have been great.
 

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A mute button on the steering wheel would have been great.
Quick swipe down the volume slide. (If you have the audio without the volume knob, that is.)
 
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It seems like reviewers rant about the volume knob so much because like you said ResortCasual, they didn't have anything else negative to say. They have to have something negative in their review to attempt to show objectivity, so they end up making something completely inconsequential into something much bigger than it should be.
 

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I'm one of those who actually like the sliders on the wheel and the HUD but after having my car for 7 months, I finally have one issue with them where a physical knob would possibly be better. If my wife drives my car (which is rare), she has an unfortunate habit of leaving the volume up around 16-17 on the radio. When I get in and start the car the sound blasts me in the face and the sliders do not accept inputs until the "system" has gone through its boot-up process. So I basically get about five full seconds of loud music before I can turn it down. However, even with a physical knob the system may not accept inputs until it is completely booted-up but in my experience with other cars, a physical knob would have this solved quick.
 

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I'm one of those who actually like the sliders on the wheel and the HUD but after having my car for 7 months, I finally have one issue with them where a physical knob would possibly be better. If my wife drives my car (which is rare), she has an unfortunate habit of leaving the volume up around 16-17 on the radio. When I get in and start the car the sound blasts me in the face and the sliders do not accept inputs until the "system" has gone through its boot-up process. So I basically get about five full seconds of loud music before I can turn it down. However, even with a physical knob the system may not accept inputs until it is completely booted-up but in my experience with other cars, a physical knob would have this solved quick.
Yep, like you mentioned, physical knobs nowadays are digital and don't do anything until the system boots. But with the slider on the steering wheel you can quick swipe down to immediately mute it, maybe that will help with your issue.
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