Jack Stands?

frontlinegeek said:

That it is and is specified in the manual that this is what you should do. If it is good enough for the crappy scissor jack, then it is plenty fine for a jack stand, floor jack or lift on a two post with pads.

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I recall the emergency jack doesn't actually lift at the pinch weld but rather the frame to the inner side of it. The weld was only used for alignment. That said the weld itself could very likely be strong enough. I do know that other Japanese cars get their pinch welds bent by lifts/stands.

civicdota said:

I do know that other Japanese cars get their pinch welds bent by lifts/stands.

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That would be clod mechanics on lifts with cup saddles instead of flats on the lift arm ends. So what you have is the pinch area resting on about 1/8th of an inch of plate steel. Soooo crush/bend time. This is why I bought a flat saddle point for my big floor jack. No way I am using a cupped plate steel thing on the bottom of anywhere on my cars.

This is what I use: https://www.princessauto.com/en/detail/floor-jack-saddle/A-p1090014e

I should also note that on Toyotas such as the Camry, there is plastic all around the pinch weld that would prevent you from putting the scissor jack anywhere but directly on that pinch weld. The plastic is arranged almost as though to force the user to put it there

at 5:02 it's hilarious the car actually tilts from lifting the rear so high.

Coworker of mine made some mini ramps, my jack clears and no issues.

MeanGreenSi said:

Coworker of mine made some mini ramps, my jack clears and no issues.

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That is a smart idea. I haven't needed to do that till now as all my previous and current other vehicle are/were high enough to allow easy access. I should make a set of those for the spring when it is time to take the winters off the new Civic.

Sal Bandini said:

I'm so tempted to get these, but that's a lot of money:

https://www.costco.com/QuickJack-5,000-LB-Capacity-Portable-Car-Lift.product.100460313.html

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Thanks for the heads up, didn't realize this was available from Costco. Just grabbed a set, about $200 cheaper than the manufacturer website and like $600 cheaper than what's available on Amazon. Will let everyone know how it goes!

Anyone have a brand of jackstands they recommend ? Is a 2 1/4 ton stand adequate, or should I get a 3 ton ?

I mainly use a set of Car Ramps I purchased year ago from Harbor Freight, which are fine by themselves for most cars, but for the Si, I add a set of Ramp Extensions so that I do not scrape on the low SI's front .
Far easier and quicker than using the Scissor jack & Jack stands, and is great for tasks like Oil Changes etc

You cannot put a price on SAFETY -- if you are going go crawling under the car, you should be 100% sure that it cannot fall down on you (Goes without saying)
Once elevated, chock the wheels that are still on the ground, so car cannot roll forwards or backwards.,

Never had a problem with the Ramps slipping when driving up onto them,

Of course, ramps are of little use when changing wheels !!

Then there are other options, if you have a Pickup Truck you can use @@@

2-1/4 jack stands are sufficient. As you go up in capacity so does the size, they get taller increasing the minimum jack stand height.

I just use RaceRamps. They work great and I don't need to worry about how the hell I'm gonna jack the car up and somehow slip jack stands under that tiny reinforcement area. Only downside is that you can't work on the wheels/tires, but I'd use my friends lift for that.

r.camlin said:

I just use RaceRamps. They work great and I don't need to worry about how the hell I'm gonna jack the car up and somehow slip jack stands under that tiny reinforcement area. Only downside is that you can't work on the wheels/tires, but I'd use my friends lift for that.

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Have you had issues driving over. They seem like they have a shallow lip. Which ones do you use? The 2 piece that connect?

Swordfish said:

Have you had issues driving over. They seem like they have a shallow lip. Which ones do you use? The 2 piece that connect?

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I use the 40" ones. It clears just fine. You have to go slow coming off of them, but I've had no issues. Wish I went for the 56" ones for peace of mind, but the 40" seems to be the limit for clearance.

Stock suspension, by the way. Lowered definitely won't clear the 40".

Also, no issue driving over the edge. The lip is larger than it looks.

Swordfish said:

Have you had issues driving over.

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If you happen to have a set of the older steel ramps from when everything seemed to have huge drive up clearance, and you are crafty, you can make wood adapters to extend the ramp angle out flatter. That is what I did with mine and it worked out great.

As for jack stands, bigger is always better until they are too tall even when they are at their lowest setting, which really, this is unlikely to be an issue. I have 3 ton stands as I also have a CRV and my parents Ridgeline comes over for regular maintenance sometimes too.