Driveitlikeustoleit
Senior Member
What really surprised me the most was just how great the Type R did in the wet race track conditions.
Usually you would think a high hp front wheel drive car would heavily understeer in wet, slippery conditions, however they never mentioned understeer at all.
"When Dickie says, ‘If Porsche did a hot hatch I think it would feel a lot like this,’ he’s not the only one to utter that thought out loud. It really is that good. AT"
"So, the GT3 is our TCoty champ? Well, yes… and no. You see, while the 911 is utterly brilliant, it’s also utterly unavailable. It’s still on Porsche’s price list, but in reality you can’t buy one. Which is not something you can say about the Civic Type R. Now bear with us here (it’ll give you time to mop up the coffee you just spat all over the page) because of all the cars here, the Honda is the one that dropped our jaws the lowest. Its breadth of ability is simply staggering, as it slips effortlessly from hassle-free commuting machine to all-out track-attack monster with little more than a press of a button. In the wet its pace was incredible (not much here was quicker), its ability to find grip bordering on witchcraft.
Yet this unflappability doesn’t come at the expense of fun: the Type R is able to get expressive with a lift of the throttle here and a dab of the brakes there. Then there’s the way it operates – beautifully calibrated damping, meaty brake feel and that lovely, wrist-flick gearchange – and its tireless appetite for lapping.
The 911 is the dream choice, but in the real world the Civic wins hands down. It’s a staggering achievement and arguably the performance bargain of the decade. JD"
Usually you would think a high hp front wheel drive car would heavily understeer in wet, slippery conditions, however they never mentioned understeer at all.
"When Dickie says, ‘If Porsche did a hot hatch I think it would feel a lot like this,’ he’s not the only one to utter that thought out loud. It really is that good. AT"
"So, the GT3 is our TCoty champ? Well, yes… and no. You see, while the 911 is utterly brilliant, it’s also utterly unavailable. It’s still on Porsche’s price list, but in reality you can’t buy one. Which is not something you can say about the Civic Type R. Now bear with us here (it’ll give you time to mop up the coffee you just spat all over the page) because of all the cars here, the Honda is the one that dropped our jaws the lowest. Its breadth of ability is simply staggering, as it slips effortlessly from hassle-free commuting machine to all-out track-attack monster with little more than a press of a button. In the wet its pace was incredible (not much here was quicker), its ability to find grip bordering on witchcraft.
Yet this unflappability doesn’t come at the expense of fun: the Type R is able to get expressive with a lift of the throttle here and a dab of the brakes there. Then there’s the way it operates – beautifully calibrated damping, meaty brake feel and that lovely, wrist-flick gearchange – and its tireless appetite for lapping.
The 911 is the dream choice, but in the real world the Civic wins hands down. It’s a staggering achievement and arguably the performance bargain of the decade. JD"
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