CTR and Hatchback Touring - Deeper 8" sub grill kit now available for pre-order

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If you have a CTR or Hatchback Touring model - both of which come with 12 channel audio system with subwoofer - you know what the challenge is when upgrading the sub itself. We've done a lot of R&D work and found a solution to improve bass performance beyond just a few limited low profile 8" subs to install in the stock enclosure. You do NOT have to have a custom heavy sub box built!

Today there are only 2 or 3 low profile 8" subs available to drop into the stock sub enclosure, which is a sealed box as we measured at 0.39 cubic feet gross volume. This limits you to ability to get even greater bass response. Also, the stock mounting depth is limited to exactly 3-5/8".

How did we solve the problem? We increased the mounting depth of the stock enclosure AND developed a grill kit that allows for more choices of 8" deeper mounting subs which have bigger magnets for better bass. Now you can use subs such as Alpine Type R or JL W3V3 8" etc. or any sub requiring about 0.30-0.35 cubic feet sealed enclosure and up to 5" mounting depth.

Note: Subs like Skar/Sundown/CT Sounds can be accommodated up to 5.5" mounting depth with special order.

We've been running Alpine Type R dual voice coil 4 ohms sub (wired to 2 ohms) and a Rockford Fosgate 969W (actual measured) amp with amazing bass performance - using this new Palindrome Labs "Deeper Sub Grill Kit" now available for all CTRs and Hatchback Touring models.

Note: Our R&D car also has all speakers (except C-pillars) upgraded to JL C2 series (center and front and rear doors' 6.5" and tweeters) all running off the stock Honda head unit and amp. You can see the entire thread here for step by step detailed instructions and guide: https://www.civicx.com/threads/full...s-amp-center-channel-and-door-speakers.27310/

Here's the FB group post for the pre-order (only 10 left of 50):

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Honda FK8 Civic Type R Product Reviews
Admin · Published by Aston D Martin ·

September 30 at 11:42 AM

PRODUCT ANNOUNCEMENT – Palindrome Labs’ “Deeper Subwoofer Grill Kit” for the Honda FK8 Civic Type R and Civic Hatchback Touring

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Pre-orders are to begin next weekend on October 6th, with the first batch of units to ship out week of October 15th. To get your name on the list, please comment/reply to this post and will use it as date/time stamp in order of your comment/reply.

We are pleased to announce the PRE-ORDER status of the deeper subwoofer (sub) solution for both the 10th Gen Civic Type R and Civic Hatchback Touring models – both come with Honda’s factory sub enclosure as part of a 12 channel/speaker audio system. As documented before in our sub R&D work, the stock sub enclosure has been limited to just a few models of low profile 8” aftermarket sub upgrades, i.e., Pioneer and Kicker. This is limited by not only the mounting depth inside the stock enclosure by the stock plastic grill as well.

VALUE: Custom sub boxes are heavy adding ~50 lbs to a track oriented car (CTR), take up trunk space and are complex to build. Our solution maintains a stealth and close to stock look, adds zero additional weight, while enabling greater bass performance improvements to the stock Honda audio system by utilizing the stock 8” sub enclosure.

Our kit solution will open up more choices in aftermarket 8” subs with larger magnets which require deeper mounting depth. This will result in greater performance and higher power handling using an additional mono amp (optional and recommended) or the stock amp. We’ve tested deeper subs with larger magnets such as Alpine’s Type R model and JL Audio’s W3V3 8”. There are many other subs from Focal, Polk, and even Skar/Sundown/CT Sounds.

SOLUTION OFFERED: We’re introducing a deeper sub grill kit which will come with the following components and options to be made available. Kit includes:
  • Custom handmade 1” thick MDF grill frame finished in black flock/fleece
  • Custom handmade black aluminum mesh sub grill
  • Custom handmade 8” x 1” thick MDF black spacer with dual sided sealant tape
  • All required mounting hardware and screws
  • Optional: 1) Choice of red, white, or blue LED accent/glow light kit, and 2) red lighted on/off switch for trunk light
  • Optional: Made to order for additional cost to accommodate subs requiring 5” to 5-1/2” mounting depth (i.e, Skar/Sundown/CT Sounds)

PRE-ORDER PRICING: For a limited quantity of the first 50 units, the kit above will be 20% discounted to $200.00 shipped. After the pre-order units are assigned, the MSRP price is $250.00 shipped. LED light kit is $15.00 option, and lighted on/off switch for trunk light is $10.00 option to be added when ordering.

Note: We are intending to make only a limited run of this solution since it’s just a hobby and may limit to only 250 units total to be available. That may or may not change in the near future.

RECOMMENDED SUB SPECS: To choose the right deeper sub to install with our kit, look for subs requiring about 0.30 cubic feet net volume sealed enclosure (stock enclosure measured at 0.39 cubic feet) and mounting depth 4-1/2” to 5”.

Thank you!



Honda Civic 10th gen CTR and Hatchback Touring - Deeper 8" sub grill kit now available for pre-order [INSTA] Palindrome Labs - Sub Kit Preorder 1


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UPDATE: Here’s a live shot of the first production unit ready to ship out next week. Every one is hand made and is more a labor of love for us. Comes complete with all sealant tape required and screws for a complete job. More updates as the week progresses...

Only 2 of initial preorder 50 units are left as of today.

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Very cool. Just installed the OEM sub in my sport hatchback. Slick upgrade.
 
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Very cool. Just installed the OEM sub in my sport hatchback. Slick upgrade.
interesting! are there 4 predrilled mounting holes in the hatchback sport model for the oem sub enclosure then? how did you get the signal for the sub if there wasn't one before?

with this grill kit, you can then get deeper (up 5.0" mounting depth) and larger magnet 8" sub which is better than low profile (3.5" or less) sub which have smaller magnets.
 

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interesting! are there 4 predrilled mounting holes in the hatchback sport model for the oem sub enclosure then? how did you get the signal for the sub if there wasn't one before?

with this grill kit, you can then get deeper (up 5.0" mounting depth) and larger magnet 8" sub which is better than low profile (3.5" or less) sub which have smaller magnets.
Yea the two bottom holes are tapper already for 10mm bolts. The upper left was just s hole and the upper right had to be drilled but the template is in the sheetmetal already. I'm running an Alpine Halo 9 radio so signal just of the back of that.
 


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Yea the two bottom holes are tapper already for 10mm bolts. The upper left was just s hole and the upper right had to be drilled but the template is in the sheetmetal already. I'm running an Alpine Halo 9 radio so signal just of the back of that.
Very interesting! Yes upper left for cars with sub is a built in bolt so a nut is used. Upper right and lower two are 10 mm nuts. Very good to know on cars without stock sub.
 
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At this time, all 50 preorders have been sold out. Shipments go out toward end of next week. If you’re on the list, you’ll get more details soon regarding payment and shipping info.
 
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This is awesome. Currently doing my upgrade to c2's.

I must say though I tried a JL Audio 8W3V3 and it sounded like garbage. It's only a 4-ohm single coil. So when it plays it doesn't hit hard, just floppy.
 
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This is awesome. Currently doing my upgrade to c2's.

I must say though I tried a JL Audio 8W3V3 and it sounded like garbage. It's only a 4-ohm single coil. So when it plays it doesn't hit hard, just floppy.
interesting...did you have a mono amp driving the jl w3v3 8" or just the stock amp driving it? that makes a huge difference.
 


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i was trying to do everything with the stock amp. i know an aftermarket would have made it so much better but its not something i want to get into yet.
 
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i was trying to do everything with the stock amp. i know an aftermarket would have made it so much better but its not something i want to get into yet.
ok that's why. if you check my thread (https://www.civicx.com/threads/full...s-amp-center-channel-and-door-speakers.27310/), you'll see the research found that stock amp is limited and will cause issue with aftermarket sub.

1) stock amp maxes out about 100-150w for the sub alone which is under-powered. this causes the amp to clip and bass becomes crap on the aftermarket sub.

2) stock amp shuts down when it clips or sees less than 2 ohms load. it shuts down all volume even though music still plays for about 15 mins.

3) for those who have oem sub with the car (ctr and hatch touring models), low profile aftermarket sub upgrade alone only sees about 25% improvement in bass.

it's almost required if not needed to have dedicated mono sub amp else the above 3 things happen for sure. i'm now on my 5th sub to test and review which is the jl w3v3 8" and jl xd600/1v2...combo is simply amazing and beautiful bass to match all 10 jl c2 series speakers i've already upgraded to.
 
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i was trying to do everything with the stock amp. i know an aftermarket would have made it so much better but its not something i want to get into yet.
ps - i forgot to mention the stock amp requires 2 ohms load/sub. if it sees a load/sub higher than that, it basically cuts the sign in half in this case with the jl w3v3 8" being a single voice coil 4 ohms load. that's the other reason you're not getting the performance expected. in essence it's the wrong load/sub for the stock amp.
 
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update: for those who had put your names on the preorder list for the deeper sub grill kit - all hand made to order - they're now starting to ship. a few are going out today and through this week. you'll be contacted via pm here or on the fb master list if you're there.

a new wait list has been started for a few who backed out on the preorder ($200 shipped) and will honor that price for the open slot. once this preorder slots are gone, regular price takes effect and is $250 shipped.

reminder: options with the kit are as follow:

1) add $15 for led accent lighting - your choice of red, white, or blue

2) add $10 for lighted on/off switch for the trunk light - to turn off the trunk light and not wash out the led accent light​

both options 1 and 2 are wired directly to the trunk light wires so only comes on when the trunk is opened so as to not drain the battery. they will time out after the standard minutes the trunk light usually times out. simple close and open the trunk again for the led accent or the trunk light (if pushed on with option #2 switch) to come on again.

thanks for your patience!

ps - i have one custom order for use with 5"-5.5" mounting depth sub. an owner wants to install a skar/ct sound/sundown 8" competition sub which requires a sealed enclosure of 0.30-0.35 cubic feet volume. looking forward to his feedback and setup which i've not tried yet personally but know the sub will fit with the grill kit.
 

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is this a direct replacement of the oem grille cover? also....PLEASE find speakers that fit in the c pillars!!! omg its sooooooooooooooooooooo annoying.
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