TSP Stage 1 Tune for the 2017+ Civic Si (Cobra Race Support Included!)

your clutch could be slipping.

dc2turbo said:

your clutch could be slipping.

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That would suck......
Bought the car begining of July bran newy. Took is easy first 1k miles.
I dont drop the clutch every take off either.

Would I need to find a Tuner to show datalogs to? I honestly wont know what I am looking at....
I am learning though....

joshhjackson2112 said:

That would suck......
Bought the car begining of July bran newy. Took is easy first 1k miles.
I dont drop the clutch every take off either.

Would I need to find a Tuner to show datalogs to? I honestly wont know what I am looking at....
I am learning though....

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If RPMS go up and Vehicle Speed does not, your clutch is slipping.

Clutch delay valve delete could help.

360glitch said:

If RPMS go up and Vehicle Speed does not, your clutch is slipping.

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I would say that but apparently on how bad these clutch are. Someone on here had a stutter problem, where his rpm dropped then went up.
let me see if i can dig up the thread

360glitch said:

If RPMS go up and Vehicle Speed does not, your clutch is slipping.

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I have been starting to understand what clutch slipping is. Watched a few videos, read stuffs, etc..
It does not feel like that. It really is more of a hesitation. My rpms and acceleration are in sync.

you can see his clutch is messing up when it dropped down

Is it okay to use 91 with octane booster for this tune?

91 is all you need. 93 is better but 91 is fine. Careful with octane booster products. Most are pretty worthless. Google for toulene, to learn about the good and bad. Or hit Amazon for torco, boostane, or racegas brands.

Bear in mind octane is a measurement of anti detonant capacity, typically intended for high output engines. I mention this because giving a car 100 octane when it is tuned for 93 is generally a waste. However if it is then tuned for 100, party on!

Micah said:

91 is all you need. 93 is better but 91 is fine. Careful with octane booster products. Most are pretty worthless. Google for toulene, to learn about the good and bad. Or hit Amazon for torco, boostane, or racegas brands.

Bear in mind octane is a measurement of anti detonant capacity, typically intended for high output engines. I mention this because giving a car 100 octane when it is tuned for 93 is generally a waste. However if it is then tuned for 100, party on!

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Thanks for the info! Do you know if ethanol-free gas is a good or bad for these cars? I don't have the flex fuel kit because I can't get E85 where I'm at. Thanks

Ok guys, got the Ktuner with the TSP stg1, and installed my PRL Cobra CAI (race Maf), sounds good and feels amazing, but i threw a CEL. P2187. I was told the Race Maf worked, so thats why i ordered it. Was told it was good from TSP as a matter of fact.
Any one have any suggestions on this?
thanks!

I am so stoked. Just ordered the TSP Stage 1 and am anxiously awaiting its arrival in my email. Read through this whole thread just now and can't believe that it took me 2 months to find this out!

Just out of randomness... I wanted to crunch a couple numbers...

Power/Weight ratios...

Civic w/TSP Stage 1 vs Accord 2.0T.

Civic Si w/TSP Stage 1 237HP/2906lbs = .0816
Accord 2.0t 252HP/3283lbs = .0768

Neat. I was trying to find the weight difference, block-wise from a plain-Jane L-block vs K-block. I found some things putting an L at 220 lbs... other things claiming "10% lighter than the D-series" which was just over 300 lbs, and out make it about 50 lbs higher than the lowest estimate ... and a K consistently at 405 lbs a few spots. I'll go with 220 for my math... it's mine... so why not skew it in my favor?

Assuming all other things being equal and adding the difference in blocks alone, that'd put a Accord-equivalent tune 2.0T Si at 3091 lbs @ 252 HP... P/W at .0815 (A Type R weights 3117... so it's close). I know.... torque/power curves aren't all the same, and the 2.0T has a lot of headroom (though, based on fuel limitations, it still peaks ultimately the same as the 1.5Ts.... about 400 WHP), but just looking at peak numbers, the TSP tune is almost spot on P/W what we would have got if we'd gotten if we had gotten a 2.0T powered car tuned like the Accord... and that's being generous saying that it would make 252 HP a the wheels. It may... it may not. I've seen it go both ways.

Not trying to pick fight or say that a 2.0t powered R-lite wouldn't have been (or still be cool) or couldn't be easily flashed to nearly equal a type-R's power output (already been done on Accords)… but I've slowly started to have a lot of love for the little L15B7. The extra ~50 whp from the tune probably put me over the top.

car feels like it pulls much harder compared to vit's stage 1. i'm a fan

Ordered my TSP Stage 1 tune last night. Hopefully I get it soon! I got 1 question @D-RobIMW that didnt seemed to be questioned or asked at all in this thread for Hondata flashpro users, With the tune, I understand that it is automatically set to the "Map 3 tune" with flashpro but do we see 19psi in normal and then 24.5 peak in sport? Or is "normal" just normal stock parameters and then the full stage 1 24.5 peak psi in sport mode? Anyone one that could answer this that has the stage 1 tune with flashpro I would appreciate it, thank you.