What happened to this one?

Owner of this CTR here?

Halfmile 40 Roll between 2016 VW Golf R Manual and 2018 Civic Type-R.

Golf R Mods: Downpipe, intercooler, intake, jb4
Civic Mods: downpipe, intercooler, intake, hondata tune.

Damn same mods and both tuned and the R got walked by that far? Crazy haha

almost looked like the CTR has a mis-shift there...

Driver, not the car.

Definitely the driver

Yeah, the Civic is a lot stronger stock and the Hondata adds more ponies. I don't buy it. Plus the jb4 on the golf r is just fooling the MAF, right? I'd think it wouldn't be as good as a "real" ecu tune on the golf...

U2Slow said:

Owner of this CTR here?

Halfmile 40 Roll between 2016 VW Golf R Manual and 2018 Civic Type-R.

Golf R Mods: Downpipe, intercooler, intake, jb4
Civic Mods: downpipe, intercooler, intake, hondata tune.

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Don't know if the CTR owner is on here but the Golf R is mine.

fmoua916 said:

Damn same mods and both tuned and the R got walked by that far? Crazy haha

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We ran twice. Here is the other run.

a c i d.f l y said:

Driver, not the car.

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Onimusha said:

Definitely the driver

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I ran 136 in the first race, he ran 131. Don't remember the speeds in the second.

My best run of the day was 139 and most were 136-137. His best of the day was 135.

yargk said:

Yeah, the Civic is a lot stronger stock and the Hondata adds more ponies. I don't buy it. Plus the jb4 on the golf r is just fooling the MAF, right? I'd think it wouldn't be as good as a "real" ecu tune on the golf...

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Not sure where you get the Civic is "a lot" stronger stock. Based on the quarter mile times I've seen posted here it'd be a drivers race between a stock R manual and a stock Type-R. DSG and the VW wins easily. I previously owned an FA5 SI and DC5 Type-S (that I should have never sold) so I'm not some big honda hater.

JB4 cars are capable of similar performance to the true tunes. I trap 116 mph in the quarter mile which is better than most tuned cars with the same bolt ons.

This thread has the golf/gti/golfR drag ladder if you're interested in the times people are running w these cars. Unfortunately, almost no one races manual Rs because of the dsg's advantages, I only know of one or two other manual cars that frequently hit the track.
https://www.golfmk7.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21419

fastlax16 said:

...it'd be a drivers race between a stock R manual and a stock Type-R. DSG and the VW wins easily. I previously owned an FA5 SI and DC5 Type-S (that I should have never sold) so I'm not some big honda hater.

JB4 cars are capable of similar performance to the true tunes. I trap 116 mph in the quarter mile which is better than most tuned cars with the same bolt ons.

This thread has the golf/gti/golfR drag ladder if you're interested in the times people are running w these cars. Unfortunately, almost no one races manual Rs because of the dsg's advantages...

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If your traps are 116mph, that explains why you're walking the Type R so bad, lol (I believe our cars get 105~107 stock...with a tune, maybe 110).

And yes...the DSG on the Golf R will dominate on the launch...no doubt!

Seeing how you ran against that Type R twice cancels out any idea of the guy in the Type R mis-shifting...you beat him hands down. I'm not sure if that guy is tuned, or just running a calibration w/his hondata...either way, hard to go up against a Golf R as it is on the launch, especially against one with DSG.

Edit: What year is your Golf R?

02SilverSiHB said:

If your traps are 116mph, that explains why you're walking the Type R so bad, lol (I believe our cars get 105~107 stock...with a tune, maybe 110).

And yes...the DSG on the Golf R will dominate on the launch...no doubt!

Seeing how you ran against that Type R twice cancels out any idea of the guy in the Type R mis-shifting...you beat him hands down. I'm not sure if that guy is tuned, or just running a calibration w/his hondata...either way, hard to go up against a Golf R as it is on the launch, especially against one with DSG.

Edit: What year is your Golf R?

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It's a '16. VW definitely gave the manual the short end of the stick, launching them cleanly is almost impossible. I've cut a 1.8 60 once (and then missed second), DSGs cut 1.6/1.7 all day long. I'd be high to mid 11s easily w the slush box. Anyways, really glad I got to run one when I did. Big turbo goes in on Sunday.

fastlax16 said:

It's a '16. VW definitely gave the manual the short end of the stick, launching them cleanly is almost impossible. I've cut a 1.8 60 once, DSGs cut 1.6/1.7 all day long. I'd be high to mid 11s easily w the slush box. Anyways, really glad I got to run one when I did. Big turbo goes in on Sunday.

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nice! Yeah, those trap speeds are killer. The Type R needs a bit more on the hondata tune (or ktuner) to get that...just a normal tune isn't going to cut (I wouldn't think anyway).