Performance parts? Flashpro? Expected potential...?

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That's a good choice if you can afford to upgrade that far. Even the SI will be a great upgrade.

The 1.5t has a lot of juice left in it though...at least the turbo does. Stock it's only putting out ~14psi...that can easily be pushed into the 20's.

The real components that I am worried about are the fuel system (mostly the HPFP) and the con-rods...but I have high hopes for this little bugger!
I'm thinking 22psi or so on E85 FTW! But again, I don't know if the HPFP can handle that kind of volume. If it is not mechanically driven, I'm sure someone could source one from the 2.0T and get the required flow...!
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I'm thinking 22psi or so on E85 FTW! But again, I don't know if the HPFP can handle that kind of volume. If it is not mechanically driven, I'm sure someone could source one from the 2.0T and get the required flow...!
I also follow the ecoboost mustangs alot (I work at ford as an engineer) and The easiest solution for the HPFP on the 2.3 ecoboost is to add an auxiliary fuel rail w/ port fuel injection along with a LPFP for that...

Once the aftermarket takes off on this engine, that's something I am positive will be made available.
 
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I also follow the ecoboost mustangs alot (I work at ford as an engineer) and The easiest solution for the HPFP on the 2.3 ecoboost is to add an auxiliary fuel rail w/ port fuel injection along with a LPFP for that...

Once the aftermarket takes off on this engine, that's something I am positive will be made available.
Ah ok. So basically an injection system similar to what we already have in our multiport fuel injection systems. I remember F-MAX (I think?) turbo kits put a huge fuel injector in the charge pipe to handle fuel needs...or with the wet NOS kits.

That situation the Ecoboost has is probably awesome because you get the benefit of direct injection during vac and low boost but then the flow and additional charge air cooling of the low pressure system. So excited to see where it goes!
 

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I'm expecting 215-230 whp on your average (probably Dynojet) dyno with a full bolt on and Flashpro tune.. I have a bad feeling the stock tiny turbo is pretty close to maximum efficiency.. The good news is we can consider a turbo upgrade pretty much a bolt on part (Flashpro will be required) to eek out some nice top end power..

Next on the radar is how well the CVT can control the power/torque without blowing up with a bigger turbo generating much more power.

Edit: Let's be honest... we didn't buy the 1.5T model to be the fastest on the road, however, you might get a lot of strange head-tilted looks when they see a 200+ WHP Civic throwing down quite well. At 200+ WHP you're pretty seriously quick and still hopefully netting 40+ MPG on the hwy!
 

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I want to say this engine has been pushed to the top of its envelope for power. Remember, if Engineers could get more power at little cost they would. But it would be bad for fuel economy and everything else. If I was gonna tune, I'd wait for the Si. Hell, the engineers couldn't get the HP to round to 175 (a pretty number) so...
Well seeing the dynos on the 1.5T are showing that it's underrating power.. It's more like a 210 crank horsepower car it seems.

That being said, I'm guessing the 174 hp figure was to keep insurance under the 200hp mark I bet. Or that 175 or more is the mark where insurance prices go up a little.
 


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I feel as if I am the most cynical person on the forum.

Why does this thread exist? With the amount of time it takes a tuner to come out with a flash or companies to come out with parts, the Si would've come out and you could've gotten that and saved yourself the risk and trouble. Or quite frankly, the money and risk spent on tunes and parts could be put towards a completely DIFFERENT car to meet your horsepower needs.

Besides, you're going to modify your Non Si Civic and show it off and people are going to wonder why you never got the Si as a template in the first place. How many R18 modded Civics do you see on the 9th gen Civic sites, like a couple at most...

No single person here is R&Ding a stronger transmission for the 1.5T because we lack money and resources, and that CVT is probably too piss weak to handle 200HP anyway.
Based on me seeing you downplay the new Civic in a lot of threads i'd have to agree that you are the most cynical person here.. Lol.. Nothing wrong with that though, we need people to keep us having realistic expectations. We're talking about a economical car (no Si or CTR to talk about) so i'll go back to my original thought that a full bolt (safely tuned) 1.5T will net an impressive 215 whp and anybody should be extremely happy about that given what the car was BUILT for.
 

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I just want enough of a boost to take on my wife's Subaru Forester XT. It won't take much.

Forester: 0 - 60: 6.3 seconds
Civic: 0 - 60: 6.7 seconds

Ok, perhaps a bit more. Just give me a 5.9 second 0 - 60
 
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Based on me seeing you downplay the new Civic in a lot of threads i'd have to agree that you are the most cynical person here.. Lol.. Nothing wrong with that though, we need people to keep us having realistic expectations. We're talking about a economical car (no Si or CTR to talk about) so i'll go back to my original thought that a full bolt (safely tuned) 1.5T will net an impressive 215 whp and anybody should be extremely happy about that given what the car was BUILT for.
I have to agree. You won't see the Si or Type R pulling 40MPG+ on the highway either. The reason I think there WILL be mods for this engine is, it's very unique in its own fashion. People are going to want to upgrade it, as it's a perfect mix between a good DD and a moderate fun track car, without having an initial cost of a straight track car as a STI/Si, R has.
 

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Light mods on that 1.5 turbo wouldn't be too traumatic as long as you respect your car, but pushing the boost up is risky. 16.5 psi is reasonable for an economy car. They are meant for fuel efficienc, reliability, and being fun to drive, not built for superior speed. Hence why they don't have VTEC. VTEC and turbos just don't blend well together, that sudden jolt in the powerband is fun, but overwhelming on the internals. Obviously the Type R has it, but Honda knows it's drivers are well aware it's a performance car, not a long standing car capable of 500,000 miles without failure. Turbos generally are meant to last 100,000 miles. Some more, some less. But pushing a small turbo with a small intercooler way beyond its safe point isn't healthy. I wouldn't ever dream of pushing the turbo past 20 psi. If I had the 1.5 I'd do intake/exhaust, and a light tune.
 

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This engine is NOT pushed to its limits. The stock tune is for 87 octane. Tuning to run on 93 octane will net great gains and thats not even factoring in increasing the boost. Hondata has said many times in videos and on this forum that the 1.5t has potential. Lets face it the k20 series saw great gains from tunes and that car had no turbo to boost and was stock tuned to run on premium. It be a safe bet to say the 1.5t will do even better with a tune than the k20...
 


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While you guys are pondering 300HP 1.5T, you should expend equal effort figuring out how someone is gonna do a MT swap on a 1.5T car...because the CVT ain't gonna have none of that 300HP
Don't the turbo cars come with a beefier "accord" cvt?
 

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No but it would be fun while it lasted. Definitely one plus to leasing lol
 

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Anyone know of or heard of a supercharger for the 2.0? Would love to supercharge my coupe LX P
 

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Anyone know of or heard of a supercharger for the 2.0? Would love to supercharge my coupe LX P
There are lots of superchargers (and turbo kits) for previous gen K series. Not sure if fitment would work here...but my best advice is to contact the manufacturers and see what they say. Might even have to retrofit one...I'd start here http://jacksonracing.com/shop/product-category/supercharger-systems/

On a related note...the wiki page info leads me to believe that the CTR engine (K20C1) is literally just a turbocharged K20C2 (the 2.0L in your car) with a few upgrades. Same bore, same stroke, same engine family...sounds like the LX might have some major potential!
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