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I turned a lot of that stuff off, I dont want to become dependent on it.
Right, we've all driven fine for decades without sensing features. Was just wondering if it's distracting more than anything. The salesmen at my dealership all didn't like it and said don't go out of your way to buy it but if it comes standard like in a touring, that's fine. But if people enjoy it for safety or coolness reasons, that's great.
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Right, we've all driven fine for decades without sensing features. Was just wondering if it's distracting more than anything. The salesmen at my dealership all didn't like it and said don't go out of your way to buy it but if it comes standard like in a touring, that's fine. But if people enjoy it for safety or coolness reasons, that's great.
I dont like the lane watch, especially on back roads its always beeping at me thinking I'm out of my lane. First thing I turned off.
 

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Right, we've all driven fine for decades without sensing features. Was just wondering if it's distracting more than anything. The salesmen at my dealership all didn't like it and said don't go out of your way to buy it but if it comes standard like in a touring, that's fine. But if people enjoy it for safety or coolness reasons, that's great.
I did not find the sensing (ACC & LKAS) distracting on my recent road trip. However I was actively trying out these features and had read the manual to ensure I understood how they were supposed to work. Even then it was unnerving to see how the car was able to essentially drive itself under appropriate conditions (dry roads, good visibility, and clear lane markings). I would suggest that the sensing should be treated as co-pilot rather than auto-pilot. You still need to keep your eyes on the road and your hands on the wheel. However with proper attention, the sensing will help keep you at the right distance from the car in front and in your proper lane. I found it made my long drive less stressful and less tiring.

I can see, however, how the sensing takes away from the 'pure' driving experience that many enthusiast drivers are looking for. I can also see how some salesmen may not like the sensing as it is likely a hard feature to sell. That being said, I like that Honda is allowing buyers to choose whether they want sensing with almost all trim levels. I went for the LX with CVT & sensing because it met my needs. Others will go for higher end trims and models, with or without sensing, because these models meet their needs. A happy 2016 to all! :)
 

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Getting used to the sensing system myself. I am not under the illusion that this is a race car or any kind of real "driving experience", so it doesn't take anything away for me. Super awesome on the highway, and the cost of sensing is worth it for the adaptive cruise alone. Awesome!
 

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I love the ACC, think that LKAS is a cool party trick, CMBS may help in an accident situation, but anyone else really annoyed by the LDW? Turned off almost immediately...stop tugging at the wheel! I know how to drive.
 


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I love the ACC, think that LKAS is a cool party trick, CMBS may help in an accident situation, but anyone else really annoyed by the LDW? Turned off almost immediately...stop tugging at the wheel! I know how to drive.
I thought LDW just warned you, did not know it tugged at the wheel? I turned it off immediately
 

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I thought LDW just warned you, did not know it tugged at the wheel? I turned it off immediately
You are correct. LDW (Lane departure warning) is passive and just alerts. LKAS (Lane Keeping Assist System) is proactive and makes slight corrections to the wheel to keep the car in detected lanes.
 

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I dont like the lane watch, especially on back roads its always beeping at me thinking I'm out of my lane. First thing I turned off.
It is not LANE WATCH you are thinking of, it is the LANE DEPARTURE WARNING!

The lane watch is the camera on the right side mirror that comes on when you turn on your turn signal!
 


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It is not LANE WATCH you are thinking of, it is the LANE DEPARTURE WARNING!

The lane watch is the camera on the right side mirror that comes on when you turn on your turn signal!
Ok, it's that I don't like lol
 

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I took my first road trip recently and managed to get the ACC & LKAS working. With both features active the car did essentially drive itself, matching the speed of the car in front and staying in its lane even through curves. You can go a short while with no hands on the wheel, but the system does appear to detect your touch and will give you a "Steering Required" warning if you go hands-free too long. However if you keep your hands on the wheel and give it it an occasional nudge, you will feel the wheel turning on its own. You just need to pay attention and intervene when the system loses track of the lane or when another car merges in front of you too closely. I only had to do this a few times and overall the experience was pretty amazing, especially thinking that essentially none of the other cars around me had these features! :)

You need to turn ACC and LKAS on using the steering wheel controls. Emergency features like Collision Mitigation Braking System (CBMS) are on by default, but you have to activate driver assistance features like ACC and LKAS.

Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) (See yellow arrows below.)
  • Click the MAIN button (Yellow Arrow 1) to engage the ACC.
  • You will see the ACC and LKAS text appear as shown below, but only the ACC will be active.
  • If you click the button with the car and bars (Yellow Arrow 2) to the right of CANCEL, you can cycle through three following distances. This is shown by the three horizontal bars (Yellow Arrow 3). (I left mine on the longest one.)
  • When ACC is on you will see a solid car icon if you are actually tracking a car in front of you. If not the car icon will be a dashed outline.
Lane Keeping Assist System (LKAS) (See cyan arrows below.)
  • To actually engage the LKAS, click on the button to the right of MAIN (Cyan Arrow 1), the one with the steering wheel and diagonal lane indicator bars.
  • Once you have activated LKAS, the lane indicators (Cyan Arrow 2) on the information display will light up. They will be solid if the system is tracking the lane and dashed if not.

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Thanks for explaining. I was testing buttons and noticed the ACC and LKAS lights. I hadn't know what they meant
 

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Anyone know any ways to intentionally avoid the "Steering required" message related to LKAS? If I'm on a long mostly straight stretch of freeway, or even with gentle curves, with LKAS on I really don't have to do anything, I can just rest my hand on the wheel in case something unexpected happens. But the car will still give me a "Steering required" message every minute or so unless I intentionally jiggle the wheel a little or pull on it. I understand it needs to know I'm awake, but it doesn't seem to be smart enough to know I actually have my hand on the wheel, only if I try to apply some pressure, which isn't natural if I'm just driving straight. I've found I can somewhat avoid it by dangling my hand so it's gently pulling on the wheel, or use my leg to move it a little bit, but again, none of this is natural, and if I just rest my hand on the wheel in a natural way, it will still throw up that "steering required" nag every so often.

Any thoughts?
 

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...if I just rest my hand on the wheel in a natural way, it will still throw up that "steering required" nag every so often.

Any thoughts?
I too have noticed this on straight stretches of road. Very annoying to have it start beeping when I have a hand on the wheel. I heard that on other cars you could unbalance the wheel with a weight of some kind and defeat this little safety "feature." Not sure if it's possible on the Civic.
 

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You are correct. LDW (Lane departure warning) is passive and just alerts. LKAS (Lane Keeping Assist System) is proactive and makes slight corrections to the wheel to keep the car in detected lanes.
LDW will bring back the car on its course, it alerts you but at the same time the steering wheel will put the car back in it's lane and that's even with LKAS off.
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