Any 2.0L owners wish they got the 1.5L Turbo?

CE1_nobling · Dec 21, 2015

My wife wanted a six speed.. the 2.0 was the only option.
No regrets with the 2.0 - it likes to rev and has great pick up.

Paul H · Dec 21, 2015

We wanted the Touring and its features however it the touring had an engine option I would have been ok with the non t 2L - although we are enjoying the turbo so far

Cheers p

Bervzci1 · Dec 21, 2015

I kind of got lucky. I wen to the dealer to get the a used 2015 SI in black and they had a 2016 1.5 turbo with sensing in black. the car had not even been inspected yet it just arrived that day. I like the luxury of the 2016 1.5 turbo sensing makes me feel all important and stuff. i was gong to get the Acura ILX but with what i get with the civic 2016 it is unbelievable. The sensing package its awesome friends cant believe it. I would of never went with the 2.0 if i am getting manual it better have power for some fun.

pwschuh · Dec 22, 2015

No. Why would I want an engine that only comes with a CVT?

regularguy · Dec 30, 2015

I was on the fence given the price difference between the EX and EX-T was only around $800. I ended up going with the 2.0L and have no regrets. I test drove it twice and then tried out the 1.5T, but didn't notice a huge difference. Also factored in this being the first year of the engine, and assumed that the NA would likely be the more reliable of the two.

hondabuildquality · Dec 30, 2015

I can't decide either. I like the power of the turbo, but the 2.0L is engaging with the manual, and it loves to rev like a Honda engine should.

billc · Dec 30, 2015

From a driver experience perspective, is the 1.5L turbo engine the same as if honda would've put a larger, say 2.4L regular engine? Or does the turbo do something that a larger engine doesn't?

hondabuildquality · Dec 30, 2015

billc said:
From a driver experience perspective, is the 1.5L turbo engine the same as if honda would've put a larger, say 2.4L regular engine? Or does the turbo do something that a larger engine doesn't?

Many auto enthusiasts prefer the characteristics of naturally aspirated engines to forced induction.

I lean towards naturally aspirated, but even though I stand with those same auto enthusiasts, I have a feeling that sometimes they grossly exaggerate their preference in an attempt to appear sophisticated. In the auto world, you should prefer naturally aspirated engines. In reality... I doubt the average person would care if they weren't told which one they should like.

Turbos are great in a pragmatic sense - in this case, the 1.5L offers more power at no cost to fuel economy, it even gets +1 MPG over the 2.0L on the highway.

Turbos can also squeeze a lot of power out of small displacement. Old school F1 ran 1.0L turbos producing over 1,000 HP.

Some supercars have also shown to be exceptions in garnering acclaim with their turbo charged engines. The F40, with its "I will kill you mid-corner when the turbos come on" type of personality is one of them, but its prestige was not solidified for exactly that reason.

Honda is often regarded as making the best 4 cylinder engines in the world, and at least with the base model Civic, you're getting the latest in a series of K-series engines which is set to be the latest iteration of that reputation.

That engine loves to rev. You can downshift and rev up into the VTEC range. There's something cool about playing with this little engine, even if it doesn't pull the car along quite as well as the turbocharged engine does.

All things equal, NA engines will have lower maintenance costs and are easier to build reliably.

Newflyer3 · Dec 30, 2015

The turbo gives you fuel economy that the 2.4L won't when cruising. Remember, when you're on the highway doing 2000 RPM there will be little to no boost pressure, meaning you're effectively running off the 1.5L at atmospheric pressure. It gives you 1.5L engine fuel economy but when you put your foot down, the boost kicks in and you get 2.4L power. The trade off? Turbo lag and shit fuel economy once you do hit the boost.

stink · Dec 31, 2015

CE1_nobling said:
My wife wanted a six speed.. the 2.0 was the only option.
No regrets with the 2.0 - it likes to rev and has great pick up.

When you get the 6-speed, you are dealing with the real sheep!!
I have a EX now. This 2.0 engine just feels like my old DC5 when I'm not pressing it hard, but with a creepier & cheaper on gas millage Auto tranny.
I believe it will work well with you 6 speed tranny.
Enjoy!

stink · Dec 31, 2015

No. Because the purpose for me on this car is not about "how fast", but "how far" and "how long".
I have the EX. And I might keeping it for long term. I don't believe any "add on" after 5 years, even it's factory designed.
The turbo and its components are just another group of sheep will hit the fence when it's get older.

stink · Dec 31, 2015

hondabuildquality said:
Many auto enthusiasts prefer the characteristics of naturally aspirated engines to forced induction.

I lean towards naturally aspirated, but even though I stand with those same auto enthusiasts, I have a feeling that sometimes they grossly exaggerate their preference in an attempt to appear sophisticated. In the auto world, you should prefer naturally aspirated engines. In reality... I doubt the average person would care if they weren't told which one they should like.

Turbos are great in a pragmatic sense - in this case, the 1.5L offers more power at no cost to fuel economy, it even gets +1 MPG over the 2.0L on the highway.

Turbos can also squeeze a lot of power out of small displacement. Old school F1 ran 1.0L turbos producing over 1,000 HP.

Some supercars have also shown to be exceptions in garnering acclaim with their turbo charged engines. The F40, with its "I will kill you mid-corner when the turbos come on" type of personality is one of them, but its prestige was not solidified for exactly that reason.

Honda is often regarded as making the best 4 cylinder engines in the world, and at least with the base model Civic, you're getting the latest in a series of K-series engines which is set to be the latest iteration of that reputation.

That engine loves to rev. You can downshift and rev up into the VTEC range. There's something cool about playing with this little engine, even if it doesn't pull the car along quite as well as the turbocharged engine does.

All things equal, NA engines will have lower maintenance costs and are easier to build reliably.

BTW, I don't see the word "V-Tec" anymore...
In fact, V-TEC were first "use as a Hi-rev turbo" (But inside the engine) to gave you extra boost on the high RPM....

CdnColin · Dec 31, 2015

I'm loving the 1.5 for me but it may have a bit too much kick for my teenage son. It's very easy to speed without really trying. He's glad its got a big digital speedo.

Mannyp93 · Dec 31, 2015

Lease i say 1.5T
Finance i''d go with the 2.0L
Long term the turbo will have more parts to replace/ care for. Looking at the turbo engine bay it looks like simple jobs such as replacing spark plugs will require you to take apart a lot of items. I am praying that they hatchback is offered in a 2.0L that is not the LX

hondabuildquality · Dec 31, 2015

stink said:
In fact, V-TEC were first "use as a Hi-rev turbo" (But inside the engine) to gave you extra boost on the high RPM....

I'm not sure exactly what you are thinking about here. It appears you are trying to say that VTEC is a technology which provides forced induction (especially high boost at high revs?), but the the forced-induction mechanism resides somewhere inside the motor.

Actually VTEC doesn't provide any boost pressure, whether you're at low or high RPMs or not.

It's just simply a technology which basically lets you use different camshafts at different RPM ranges. This means you can have an engine optimized for daily driving at lower RPM, but also have a really raspy high end power band.

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