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See my previous replies in this thread about the 1.5T.
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Source? If it's Jason or Rollednsx then I don't have full belief yet. I'm still shuffling through my channels.See my previous replies in this thread about the 1.5T.
I'm bewildered with the 1.5T infatuation. Honda announced back in 2013 that there would be three new turbo Earth Dreams engines: a 1.0L, a 1.5L and a 2.0L. Now the first one I imagine most of us don't really care about, and we've seen the second offered up in certain trim levels of the new Civic. The super-sized version is the one that really piques my interest, and I believe this is the one that will power the new Si and Type-R. Here's why:This statement doesn't particularly indicate Si getting a 2.0T. It merely says they go mass production with the K20C engine for the Civic lineup.
We already know the Type R is being released for this platform so all signs might point to that as indication. In my opinion, it seems Honda might want to distance the TypeR from the Si and create a more powerful 1.5T to top the engine series off and leave the 2.0T on its own island. Seeing as though the 2.0T will fill the entire Honda lineup eventually, I would guess this would be the case. This engine will have a large foundation set for it.
I could be wrong and hopefully am. But to close the gap between Si and TypeR would cannibalize Type R sales for an already limited production vehicle. Also, their plans to make the next Type R faster than current doesn't particularly mean it needs to have more horsepower.
yup .. with the 260max figure they would need to use the Type R twin pivot (or whatever they call it) front end2.0T has been the game plan all along. And 230 is a fairly conservative number. If Honda chose to do so, they could easily wrangle 250-260 out of the Si without encroaching on the 9th or 10th Gen CTR.
That said, 230-240 will be the likely target, unless they find another way to dial out torque steer.
False. The 2.0T hasn't been the game plan all along. Your sources know this. Honda realized that to be the best, they would need more than just "feature driven" help. If this is the case then it is a win.2.0T has been the game plan all along. And 230 is a fairly conservative number. If Honda chose to do so, they could easily wrangle 250-260 out of the Si without encroaching on the 9th or 10th Gen CTR.
That said, 230-240 will be the likely target, unless they find another way to dial out torque steer.
I take it you've checked your own sources and they have told you the same info about the 2.0L in the next Si?I'm more butt hurt that this change delayed the original target for Si release, among other platform reasons.
Good thing though. The Si needed it.
Negative. Although I haven't spoken with my sources for a while since they've been busy with the recent Civic launch and working hard on the Coupe launch. If the change happened, it happened very recently.I take it you've checked your own sources and they have told you the same info about the 2.0L in the next Si?
The Type R engine is being ran in such small numbers That if this engine were exclusive to just the Type R Civic the cost they would charge would be absurd. Phosky I believe has nailed it with his quote above.3. With the ostensibly limited production of the CTR, it would be absurd to build a totally unique power plant just for the R platform. Better to build a strong 2.0L mill and throw some lower CR slugs in it with a tune to match. With closer parts commonality with a "regular" model, the rationale behind a Type-R variant is far more palatable.