S2000 or Civic TypeR?

Which would you choose if spec sheets were similar and prices which would probably be realistic. If the S2000 was $35k with a hard top and decent trunk space, decent as in fit a 10" sub and have enough room for duffle bag.and random stuff I'd probably go for that as I've been itching for a RWD car but BMW and Porsche maintenance prices aren't my cup of tea. The downside to typeR is rarity and theft. But the rarity is also a plus as far as resale. Thoughts?

It would be best to compare realistic scenarios.

Once the Type R is officially released, would you rather have a $35K Civic with 300HP, seating for four, trunk space and modern amenities?

Or a $30K+ 2009 S2K (with very low miles), 240 naturally aspirated HP, a redline near 8500 PRMs, RWD, low maintenance and higher reliability when compared to Porsche or BMW, huge aftermarket support, convertible top and, depending on where you live, rarity?

If I was single and did not have any kids, it would be a really tough call. More than likely I would choose an S2K. I have owned turbo cars already, but I truly love a Honda NA engine a lot more. The S2K simply looks and sounds like nothing else on the road.

I will say this though. If the Type R was the last JDM model, the FD2, with its NA 4 Cyl engine, no question, it would be that car.

Have you ever driven a turbo car with a manual or an S2K or Civic Si?

Yes. S2k, a few bmw's, a few Porsches - 911, several si's. IF the new s2000 is even close to typeR specs I will have a hard time choosing. I'm quite sure the upcoming s2k will have close if not all the amendmenties the X civics will have but quite sure the s2k won't hang with the typeR, maybe even the the X si. But of Honda co tinues the 'sporty' trend they might surprise us. Highly doubtful though. I see it being more similar to the upcoming SI specs. Decisions decisions. The current si's are faster than the older s2k's but not a whole.lot. I live in Texas so open top isn't that big a deal. I have a truck to fall back on. These rumors of next gen s2k have me in a bind. The current t typeR is kind of ugly but I'm quite sure the experience will make up for it.

I wish the SI specs and nxt gen s2k specs beans would be spilled already. Loving the '14 SI minus the auxiliary jack and secondary 12v. Ugh.

Well if the next S2K ends up being a baby NSX, it will definitely not be a $35k. That being said, I agree. The Type R would probably still be a more hardcore performing vehicle.

I commented on this in the "Baby NSX?" thread in general forums, but the latest rumor seems to be that the "baby NSX" and a new S2K will be separate cars -- the latter being an FMR roadster and the other staying an RMR coupe. Assuming that's true, the roadster might remain under $40k, but the RMR? I doubt it. Call it the "mid-engine tax".

Baby nsx and s2k are.two different cars. S2k is probably in my price range.

i think the s2k will be <$40k. honda needs another enthusiast semi-flagship that'll sell decent and appease all the owners that'd rather have a honda but go to bmw for the RWD. somebody like me. the baby nsx will probably be luxury priced and out of mainstream almost anybody can buy it territory. at least i guess.

anyways, my assumptions for making this thread were that typeR and s2k would be similarly priced. which would you choose? one thing about the s2k was it was a pure driving machine, unlike bmw's company slogan. really the only that deviated from that was the push to start. everything else, was a steering and fun car to drive. if honda released a USA s2k and typeR next year at the same time around the same price, i think a salesperson would be very pissed at me because i would really test the cars. the integra, RSX and s2k have held up well for their age and not talking about reliability. they just aged gracefully, though the integra is getting rarer to see and slowly falling out of place. i really wish honda would at least throw out ballpark prices and amenities for the X gen si, typeR and upcoming s2k. heck, all the new '16 civic sedan owners have me wanting to test drive a touring turbo so i get a feel for the engine, suspension and sound system. i am hoping the typeR is $35k or less, wishful thinking i i know, but the new si might be very tempting. would kick myself in the ass if new s2k was $35k and i bought a si. i'd just accelerate if i got a typeR. that thing is a beast for a factory FWD car.

Well, as much as I don't really like hatchbacks, picking between an S2K akin to the previous one and the Type R, I'd probably go with the latter for the practicality (read: extra seating).

pukemon said:

Yes. S2k, a few bmw's, a few Porsches - 911, several si's. IF the new s2000 is even close to typeR specs I will have a hard time choosing. I'm quite sure the upcoming s2k will have close if not all the amendmenties the X civics will have but quite sure the s2k won't hang with the typeR, maybe even the the X si. But of Honda co tinues the 'sporty' trend they might surprise us. Highly doubtful though. I see it being more similar to the upcoming SI specs. Decisions decisions. The current si's are faster than the older s2k's but not a whole.lot. I live in Texas so open top isn't that big a deal. I have a truck to fall back on. These rumors of next gen s2k have me in a bind. The current t typeR is kind of ugly but I'm quite sure the experience will make up for it.

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If the next S2000 has Type R specs it's going to be quite an expensive roadster ($30-40k). I'm not sure there's a market for small expensive roadsters. Miata sells still because it's cheaper and well it's a Miata. Other than that what roadster has sustained sales and managed to stay around for years.

I might be one of the Few, but I would love to keep my S2000 and enjoy it for what it is, and have a Type R or and SI as a daily to do all sorts of other things.

pukemon said:

i think the s2k will be <$40k.

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I don't think that's very likely. The 2009 S2000 was $35k MSRP. Assuming 2% inflation per year, bringing it out in 2017 at the "same" price as the old one would mean a price of $41k. Not only that, I think the S2000 nameplate has increased in value since 2009. Demand for a new version will be huge.

josby said:

I don't think that's very likely. The 2009 S2000 was $35k MSRP. Assuming 2% inflation per year, bringing it out in 2017 at the "same" price as the old one would mean a price of $41k. Not only that, I think the S2000 nameplate has increased in value since 2009. Demand for a new version will be huge.

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No reason Honda has to bring out a new S2000 at the same price (adjusted for inflation) as the previous one. I think they're smarter than trying to sell a small 2 seat roadster that costs more than $40k. $40k+ roadsters currently available on the market (Z4, SLK) don't exactly fly off the shelf.

05 Si said:

$40k+ roadsters currently available on the market (Z4, SLK) don't exactly fly off the shelf.

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Neither did the S2000, though. Average of ~6700 sold in the U.S. per year for the 10 years, compared to ~350,000 U.S. Accords per year during the same time. I guess it will depend on if their goals for the new S2000 will be the same as they were for the old one or not.

I'll likely keep my S2000 as well. The new CTR will be a perfect daily driver/family car IMO.