Xenu
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- 2016 Civic EX-T
I love that we have a heated thread here since March 2016 asking why people complain there is no volume knob.
This car is so awesome that all that's left to nitpick is a) no volume knob and b) volume knob supporters by swipe supporters
To reply to the OP, removing the volume knob in favor of touch does not necessarily make it more modern. IMHO in order for a touch sensitive volume control to be more modern, it must be able to respond with enough speed and precision to surpass the volume knob. I guarantee if you pick a random volume number, and timed acquiring that volume level by both methods, the volume knob would win. At this moment, to implement a touch control with that much precision would be cost prohibitive, so while the idea is modern, the implementation is not modern. Additionally, as a user interface, a volume knob provides tactile feedback allowing precision, whether by a little skill or a stepping click, after all, modern electric guitars don't have a touch slider, nor do all professional audio engineer mixing boards.
I am not saying those who prefer no-knob to be wrong, just that a touch slider does not automatically make an input method more modern, therefore those that lament the loss of the volume knob cannot be invalidated nor dismissed.
Additionally, the knob is a tried-and-true interface. As input devices Dvorak keyboards are technically superior to QWERTY, but technically right doesn't always prevail. An example of swiping to not be a be-all-end-all input method is why most people don't own a large trackpad instead of a mouse for their desktops, or why you would not prefer the rotary dial on your mouse to be touch swipe.
I agree with DavidJBrooks' points, especially when aesthetics, cost, and real estate come into play. Honestly, I'm sure at some point designing the center stack there was an argument about it, and cost and aesthetics won.
In the end, it doesn't make or break the car, after all we all own a CivicX. I applaud the passion on both sides (not the dismissivity), and by the fact that this thread survives certainly proves this is hardly an open and shut case.
This car is so awesome that all that's left to nitpick is a) no volume knob and b) volume knob supporters by swipe supporters
To reply to the OP, removing the volume knob in favor of touch does not necessarily make it more modern. IMHO in order for a touch sensitive volume control to be more modern, it must be able to respond with enough speed and precision to surpass the volume knob. I guarantee if you pick a random volume number, and timed acquiring that volume level by both methods, the volume knob would win. At this moment, to implement a touch control with that much precision would be cost prohibitive, so while the idea is modern, the implementation is not modern. Additionally, as a user interface, a volume knob provides tactile feedback allowing precision, whether by a little skill or a stepping click, after all, modern electric guitars don't have a touch slider, nor do all professional audio engineer mixing boards.
I am not saying those who prefer no-knob to be wrong, just that a touch slider does not automatically make an input method more modern, therefore those that lament the loss of the volume knob cannot be invalidated nor dismissed.
Additionally, the knob is a tried-and-true interface. As input devices Dvorak keyboards are technically superior to QWERTY, but technically right doesn't always prevail. An example of swiping to not be a be-all-end-all input method is why most people don't own a large trackpad instead of a mouse for their desktops, or why you would not prefer the rotary dial on your mouse to be touch swipe.
I agree with DavidJBrooks' points, especially when aesthetics, cost, and real estate come into play. Honestly, I'm sure at some point designing the center stack there was an argument about it, and cost and aesthetics won.
In the end, it doesn't make or break the car, after all we all own a CivicX. I applaud the passion on both sides (not the dismissivity), and by the fact that this thread survives certainly proves this is hardly an open and shut case.
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