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Alright, so I have these sitting around at home:
P.RA Compatible with 2016-2017 Honda Civic Smoked LED Front Side Marker Light - LED Turn Signal Housing Parking Light Replacement Lamp https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07641GFZ4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_n7aaDb5VT1RDQ
I also have a pair of these sitting around from my led reflector side by side review:
https://corsomotion.com/collections...cts/led-reflector-control-module-modules-pair
Now, considering the vague MN law below, I am not sure if white side markers are legal, usually any light visible from the side needs to be amber, but the law is written in a vague way as it assumes front markers are front facing. I have been looking for directional restrictions of light colors in the MN code but have not found any yet....
https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/2011/cite/169.51
And it sounds like federal law requires amber side markers:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automotive_lighting#Side_marker_lights_and_reflectors
So, I figure my options are:
1. OEM: Swap the white and amber wires in the marker so that the amber light is on solid as per OEM behavior.
2. Default Switchback: wire up the white wire to the OEM plug and run the amber wire to a t-tap on the headlight flasher. This will be white solid with switchback amber turn signals. Unsure about the legality of this in MN.
3. Amber Only Switchback: this is more complicated as it will use the corsomotion reflector modules. I would wire up the markers amber wire to the control module, run the flasher wire from the module to the t-tap on the headlight flasher wire, and run the running light control module wire to the marker plug. This would always run amber solid, and flash amber for turn signals.
4. Brake + Amber Only Switchback: this would include all the functions and behaviors of #3 above, but also include a brighter amber for when the brakes are engaged. I figure I would need to find a brake circuit under the dash or in the engine compartment fuse box and wire that to the control module brake wire.
5. The Full Monty Amber + White Switchback: this would include everything from #3 and #4 above, but also use the markers white led wire for parking and reverse lights. This would require finding both the parking and reverse circuits under the dash or in the engine compartment and wiring them to a switching circuit and then finally to the white led reflector wire.
Cheers.
P.RA Compatible with 2016-2017 Honda Civic Smoked LED Front Side Marker Light - LED Turn Signal Housing Parking Light Replacement Lamp https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07641GFZ4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_n7aaDb5VT1RDQ
I also have a pair of these sitting around from my led reflector side by side review:
https://corsomotion.com/collections...cts/led-reflector-control-module-modules-pair
Now, considering the vague MN law below, I am not sure if white side markers are legal, usually any light visible from the side needs to be amber, but the law is written in a vague way as it assumes front markers are front facing. I have been looking for directional restrictions of light colors in the MN code but have not found any yet....
https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/2011/cite/169.51
(b) Every such vehicle having a width, including load thereon, at any part in excess of 80 inches shall be equipped with four clearance lamps, two located on the front at opposite sides and not more than six inches from the extreme outer edge of the vehicle or load, displaying a white or amber light visible from a distance of 500 feet to the front of the vehicle, and two located on the rear on opposite sides not more than six inches from the extreme outer edge of the vehicle or load, displaying a red light visible from a distance of 500 feet to the rear of the vehicle. The front clearance lamps shall be located at a height of not less than 24 inches above the headlamp centers. The rear clearance lamps shall be in addition to the red rear lamp hereinbefore required.
And it sounds like federal law requires amber side markers:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automotive_lighting#Side_marker_lights_and_reflectors
So, I figure my options are:
1. OEM: Swap the white and amber wires in the marker so that the amber light is on solid as per OEM behavior.
2. Default Switchback: wire up the white wire to the OEM plug and run the amber wire to a t-tap on the headlight flasher. This will be white solid with switchback amber turn signals. Unsure about the legality of this in MN.
3. Amber Only Switchback: this is more complicated as it will use the corsomotion reflector modules. I would wire up the markers amber wire to the control module, run the flasher wire from the module to the t-tap on the headlight flasher wire, and run the running light control module wire to the marker plug. This would always run amber solid, and flash amber for turn signals.
4. Brake + Amber Only Switchback: this would include all the functions and behaviors of #3 above, but also include a brighter amber for when the brakes are engaged. I figure I would need to find a brake circuit under the dash or in the engine compartment fuse box and wire that to the control module brake wire.
5. The Full Monty Amber + White Switchback: this would include everything from #3 and #4 above, but also use the markers white led wire for parking and reverse lights. This would require finding both the parking and reverse circuits under the dash or in the engine compartment and wiring them to a switching circuit and then finally to the white led reflector wire.
- Any input or thoughts about these options?
- Anyone have law enforcement issues with running white side markers?
- Finally, anyone know where I can find the extra circuits, preferably in the engine bay or under the dash if necessary? (brake, parking, reverse)
Cheers.
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