Wicker bill on rear wing for more downforce?

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The Evo 9 MR came with vortex generators and a wicker bill on the rear wing to generate additional downforce. My assumption is the Type R is generating enough downforce that Honda didn't put one on it. Looking forward to see if aftermarket will create one for those wanting additional downforce for the track.

 

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PW:JDM quality is so-so. I have their intake, wire cover, and airbag delete on my EK. The intake has some gaps in the weave sealed by the gelcoat but otherwise is fine. The wire cover was twisted around the long axis and has to be bolted down just so in order to lay flat, I got a much better carbon wire cover from Noname eBay brand - so much nicer that it's the one on the valve cover I framed on the wall of my office. The airbag delete was warped to the point that the center doesn't lay tightly against the dash even after I thinned the ends. Also, the carbon is inconsistent and not very shiny (but isn't "dry weave" either). It's not bad stuff, I'd just be reluctant to spend $250 for.... that. From them. Just FYI.
 

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Would be good to see some data that shows functionality.
 


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PW:JDM quality is so-so. I have their intake, wire cover, and airbag delete on my EK. The intake has some gaps in the weave sealed by the gelcoat but otherwise is fine. The wire cover was twisted around the long axis and has to be bolted down just so in order to lay flat, I got a much better carbon wire cover from Noname eBay brand - so much nicer that it's the one on the valve cover I framed on the wall of my office. The airbag delete was warped to the point that the center doesn't lay tightly against the dash even after I thinned the ends. Also, the carbon is inconsistent and not very shiny (but isn't "dry weave" either). It's not bad stuff, I'd just be reluctant to spend $250 for.... that. From them. Just FYI.
i saw it in person and there's some porosity on the edges. May not be a big deal for most people, but me seeing aerospace composite parts for over 10 years, those little stuff bother me. Probably just OCD. That said, these types of parts don't necessarily need to look perfect(although i would expect it for the advertised cost) I would even be interested in a cheaper plastic part, but CF fad still exists. I also think the price is quite high. I too think it'll be nice to get some data. i was just actually thinking if they provided data, us consumers may justify the price. But, i highly doubt they'll provide it or thorough data. "researched resulted in 10lbs of down force" doesn't cut it. :dunno:
 

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...but CF fad still exists...
I guess I'm a scene kid, because I will always love the look of carbon, and I think it'll stick around longer than dimple die parts. Or maybe I'm stuck in the 2000s... In any case, yes, I get that carbon fiber is a unique material but $250 for a part that has a fold and two contours, the gelcoat better be a freakin' mile thick and gorgeously perfect.

This guy made a gurney flap for the Type R DC2 wing, and I'm so in love with it I almost bought it for an Integra I had no definite plans to buy. If he, or anyone, makes a similar gurney flap for the Type R, I'm getting one even if it spoils all of the downforce. It looks so good....
 

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i guess i shouldn't use the word "fad" since i may be outnumbered..lol. Don't get me wrong, carbon looks cool and is always around. But true usage of carbon is usually covered or painted over. 90% stuff you see are for looks or maybe that bling bling factor. That's why carbon look wraps or faux parts are successful. Based on that, companies can really mark up for simply 1 layer of carbon that's on the outside and the rest, cheap sprayed/chopped fiberglass.
 

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you mean this? i got this a few weeks ago.. was a bitch to install as it was pretty much a 1 time install.. if you screw it up.. its going to be a pain in the ass to peel it off as it uses industrial like strength double sided tape.

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Can you notice any difference when driving? If it does make more downforce then you would see decrease in mpg
 
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i didnt notice a drop in mpg.. but then again.. i dont drive conservative either..
 

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Wickerbills/gurney flaps typically help more in high angle of attack situations. The CTR's wing is not angled enough to really take advantage.
 

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I know downforce is not needed for fwd, but do yall think wing from Evasaive is more functional being more curvy compared to this add on gurney flap?

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