Which one to get? Mishimoto Air Intake or Injen Air Intake (Short RAM))

[De When]

I have a month old Civic Coupe with 1.5 Turbo Engine and thinking of adding more juice to it by installing Air Intake. I just need expert advice on which one to get?

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[NSCIVIC]

Whichever you want. I said in another thread that you will experience nominal gains but don't expect to beat a z06 off the line. FYI I bought the injen one since it was available before the mishomoto. I think at this point the only difference is do you want a different colored piping or metal? A regular heat shield or a more closed off one.

 

[De When]

Whichever you want. I said in another thread that you will experience nominal gains but don't expect to beat a z06 off the line. FYI I bought the injen one since it was available before the mishomoto. I think at this point the only difference is do you want a different colored piping or metal? A regular heat shield or a more closed off one.

I like the Injen metal pipe but the Mishimoto has a better enclosure for the filter which they say is better protection from heat.

 

[Veldox]

I choose Mishimoto based on the colored silicon tubing and the heatshield.

 

[staged84]

I'm not buying from a manufacturer that advertises fake gains. cough injen.

 

[Quicksipper]

I'm not buying from a manufacturer that advertises fake gains. cough injen.

Need some water?

 

[kshawn]

Heat shealding before the turbo, heat monster, wont help. Get the one that looks best to you.

 

[DarkLight]

Need some water?

Good Idea!

If you turbo guys are looking to actually get cooler intake air, then run water-methanol injection, get an intercooler sprayer, or better yet, E85 conversion.

And those heat shields reflect radiant heat, they do not prevent hot engine bay air from entering the intake. Best area to make gains in is to upgrade the hardware after the turbo inlet.

 

[kshawn]

Good Idea!

If you turbo guys are looking to actually get cooler intake air, then run water-methanol injection, get an intercooler sprayer, or better yet, E85 conversion.

And those heat shields reflect radiant heat, they do not prevent hot engine bay air from entering the intake. Best area to make gains in is to upgrade the hardware after the turbo inlet.

I've been looking at water/methanol injection. I wonder how easy it would to put a system in

 

[DarkLight]

I've been looking at water/methanol injection. I wonder how easy it would to put a system in

When it comes to WM, you can go mild to wild with it.

Here's a good example of a fairly simple drop in kit that diy'er could install: http://www.snowperformance.net/Stage-1-Boost-Cooler-Water-Methanol-Injection-Kit-p/201.htm

If you want a fully adjustable setup with a multi-stage controller for running tons of boost then check this one out: http://www.aemelectronics.com/?q=pr...ion-kit-for-forced-induction-gasoline-engines

ETA: intercooler sprayers are much cheaper, with no severe consequences if you do a bad install so try that first!

 

[hybrid81]

When it comes to WM, you can go mild to wild with it.

Here's a good example of a fairly simple drop in kit that diy'er could install: http://www.snowperformance.net/Stage-1-Boost-Cooler-Water-Methanol-Injection-Kit-p/201.htm

If you want a fully adjustable setup with a multi-stage controller for running tons of boost then check this one out: http://www.aemelectronics.com/?q=pr...ion-kit-for-forced-induction-gasoline-engines

ETA: intercooler sprayers are much cheaper, with no severe consequences if you do a bad install so try that first!

Never heard of water menthol kits before. Also never had a car with a turbo, so that could be why. What's the downside of installing one of these kits?

 

[DarkLight]

Never heard of water menthol kits before. Also never had a car with a turbo, so that could be why. What's the downside of installing one of these kits?

The downside is that you now have an additional system to maintain in your vehicle. You have to make sure that the reservoir stays topped up and you have to inspect/possibly replace additional components. Especially in a gasoline-powered vehicle, where you may be running an aggressive tune that would cause detonation if the system failed. For some, it's poor man's race gas, allowing pump gas to have the knock resistance of race fuel. Of course, very high-end setups have the ability to retard ignition timing to prevent engine damage.

Personally, my experience with it involves turbo diesels, where it is used to reduce exhaust gas temperatures to preserve the variable geometry turbocharger from heat damage when running rich A/F ratios for maximum power.

 

[kshawn]

i'd definitely go with a intercooler sprayer. and not have it on an agressive tune, just in case it runs out. I also read that you can link it to your windshield washer tank, and only fill it with a 60/40(water/methanol) washer fluid, no glycol.

 

[civic_n00b93]

Whichever you want. I said in another thread that you will experience nominal gains but don't expect to beat a z06 off the line. FYI I bought the injen one since it was available before the mishomoto. I think at this point the only difference is do you want a different colored piping or metal? A regular heat shield or a more closed off one.

How do you like yours? I'm thinking of getting the short ram Injen intake but I haven't read how it affects the AF sensors after install. You got the CAI or Short ram?

 

[NSCIVIC]

How do you like yours? I'm thinking of getting the short ram Injen intake but I haven't read how it affects the AF sensors after install. You got the CAI or Short ram?

I enjoy mine. Got good pick up. I have the cai but made it into short ram since I'm lazy. One thing to note is I did notice a drop in gas mileage but that's because on drive with no Eco mode you hear the intake at around 2000rpm and I was probably tooling around a bit too much when I first got it. Now it's normal.

When you do install this you have to remove the negative battery terminal and when you reconnect it the systems will restart and you will have to just redo some settings. The reason why I'm bringing this up is when I did my first start up all these lights were on in the dash and it looked like I screwed the pooch. All you gotta do is just drive and the warning lights go away