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Mail forwarding. It's why so many people have PO boxes in Montana. Lower registration costs and no smog.Does this work? How would you access the PO Box in another state? Friends or relatives?
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Mail forwarding. It's why so many people have PO boxes in Montana. Lower registration costs and no smog.Does this work? How would you access the PO Box in another state? Friends or relatives?
Steve Lehto did a video about this actually (specifically Montana). Granted in his video he talks about creating an LLC in Montana to register a car (no registration, fees, or smog in Montana). But there is the entire thing going on with the fact that you're technically scamming the state you are in from registration/tax fees. This might fall under tax evasion in your state/county. I know in 2018 Georgia made a statement that they'd start cracking down on this. Note that this portion applies whether or not you registered on your own (as an individual) or using a created LLC.Mail forwarding. It's why so many people have PO boxes in Montana. Lower registration costs and no smog.
Woops. Dropped this map of where someone could register a car without bi-annual smog testing.
Yes. I will light a little Guadalupe candle for you every 2 years when it comes registration time and we all pray we don't read "STAR required".I’m in the Orange enhanced zone... does that mean I’m screwed?
WuuoDoes this work? How would you access the PO Box in another state? Friends or relatives?
Yeah except if you get into an accident, your insurance company can easily use this as an excuse to deny claims and cancel your insurance.Yes. I will light a little Guadalupe candle for you every 2 years when it comes registration time and we all pray we don't read "STAR required".
Time for a PO box in the white areas of the map.
Because you have a PO box an hour away from where you live? Heaven forbid someone has multiple residences in the same area they live in. Nothing says you can't live in a tent in the boonies and have a PO box in town. Insurance companies will try to slip out of any claim if they can regardless. All of these smog sneaks come with their own inherent risks.Yeah except if you get into an accident, your insurance company can easily use this as an excuse to deny claims and cancel your insurance.
Yes, absolutely. Do you think insurance companies are idiots? If were an insurance company and you noticed that your customer registered their car to a PO address that's different from where they live, that wouldn't raise red flags? That's not them slipping out of a random claim, that's just due diligence to avoid insurance fraud.Because you have a PO box an hour away from where you live? Heaven forbid someone has multiple residences in the same area they live in. Nothing says you can't live in a tent in the boonies and have a PO box in town. Insurance companies will try to slip out of any claim if they can regardless. All of these smog sneaks come with their own inherent risks.
I feel like more effort would be put into this if you wrecked a Lambo or a 400k motorhome. I was surprised my insurance was as low as it was for a CTR, I was expecting the Integra LS vs Type R gap of the past. It's just another 5 door civic in the system to them when I inquired if the pricing was correct with my VIN.
PO boxes exist for a reason - not everyone can receive mail at their home. Insurance companies understand this. This is a $30K civic - not a $500K exotic.Yes, absolutely. Do you think insurance companies are idiots? If were an insurance company and you noticed that your customer registered their car to a PO address that's different from where they live, that wouldn't raise red flags? That's not them slipping out of a random claim, that's just due diligence to avoid insurance fraud.
What I don't think you're considering is the address of both your house and your PO Box. It's easy for an insurance company to map the two addresses and see if they are near each other, or 200 miles away. I have no idea if the insurance company cares if your house address is Tucson, AZ and your PO Box address is Globe, AZ, but it seems like it might be something they notice.PO boxes exist for a reason - not everyone can receive mail at their home. Insurance companies understand this. This is a $30K civic - not a $500K exotic.
I have a PO box because at my old place in college packages would get stolen from my porch. I opened a PO box and got all my mail and packages delivered there. This ensured my packages are kept safe. My ID had my PO box, all my bills had my PO box, and....DING DING my car insurance did as well.
It matters because an insurance company will adjust rates dependent on risk- that calculation seems to weigh heavily on the risk associated with where you reside, your regular daily travels and the exposure associated with those factors.What I don't think you're considering is the address of both your house and your PO Box. It's easy for an insurance company to map the two addresses and see if they are near each other, or 200 miles away. I have no idea if the insurance company cares if your house address is Tucson, AZ and your PO Box address is Globe, AZ, but it seems like it might be something they notice.
You sir, are a God. Thank you for providing us with useful information. Really appreciate your input and knowledge.Intercooler does not need to be stock, that is a free mod. Refer to Smog Manual Appendix C. Gasoline powered vehicle DO NOT need a CARB EO number for intercooler changes, diesel vehicle DO need a EO number. Water injection as well, DOES NOT require a CARB EO number, not to be confused with ethanol injection kits. Catch cans are also completely legal, but ONLY if they are a completely sealed system or a system that drains back to the oil pan. They cannot have a breather filter on the top of the tank, no emissions gases should be able to vent to atmosphere. Air filters can be aftermarket, JUST THE FILTER, any "intake kit" needs a EO number. CARB legal intakes do not need to have the sticker present, so if a smog tech tells you that your legal intake fails because he doesn't see a sticker, that's bullshit. It is up to the smog technician to verify EO status, not the customer, but he can fail the intake if he cannot verify it's legal. So he must attempt to do the research.
https://www.bar.ca.gov/pdf/2017_Smog_Check_Manual.pdf
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