Well, I'm knocking.

[17siturb0]

How can they say water got in the motor without any proof? How does that even slide legally? A lawyer would have a field day with this..

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[Sgtstaadanko]

How can they say water got in the motor without any proof? How does that even slide legally? A lawyer would have a field day with this..

Things are a bit different up here in the great white.

 

[dallasjhawk]

So just to understand this right. They haven’t found any signs of a tune, but they are blaming you that you somehow got water into the engine. Denying the warranty because of that, without any better details or proof? =S

Lets remember Honda Canada may work different than Honda US. We already know of one Canada motor that blew. The user claimed warranty and Honda sent out a tech to inspect the engine and car. Of course he had over revved the engine but the owner also claimed honda tech told him they could tell the ecu had been flashed. Anyhow, in the end Honda could tell mr Sgt. here he isnt covered in the end so he is just biting the bullet now so he can have his car back more quickly.

 

[batman900]

Lets remember Honda Canada may work different than Honda US. We already know of one Canada motor that blew. The user claimed warranty and Honda sent out a tech to inspect the engine and car. Of course he had over revved the engine but the owner also claimed honda tech told him they could tell the ecu had been flashed. Anyhow, in the end Honda could tell mr Sgt. here he isnt covered in the end so he is just biting the bullet now so he can have his car back more quickly.

Yeah, I don't blame him. If he kept pushing, not only would it take forever but the dealer would probably eventually have someone higher up come inspect, finding all the actual legitimate reasons to void. The end result would likely be the same. $3500 CAD really isn't bad at all for an engine and install.

 

[Jamroxorz]

Well that’s shitty, but I guess 3500$ is reasonable to get everything done and up and running again. I live in Canada as well.

 

[17siturb0]

I mean if he caused it to fail it’s a different story, but if he in fact didn’t, that would be a load of horse poo poo.

 

[charleswrivers]

Yeah... this one's just wonky on their side. I would think they'd want to pretty definitively have a reason why they want to deny a claim. The hydrolock seems like a cop out. If they want to call it 'user abuse' w/proof then.. sure. But the dealer pulling 'hydrolock' out of thin air seems crooked. Flashing back to stock if the damage was due to a bad/tune and abuse is bad too... and I know two wrongs don't make a right. Just seems like a lot of wrong, no matter what. I feel for you. It's a tough situation to be in. $3500 CAN sounds like a pretty reasonable cost for a not-super-common-yet-at-a-junkyard low mileage engine and dealer install.

I guess if there aren't laws to provide protection for you, it puts the burden of proof on the owner and not the business.

 

[Design]

If he fought the decision, Honda would have probably sent out a regional engineer to look at the freeze data. He was boned either way.

 

[tacthecat]

If pursued, the only eventual winner would be the lawyer - the dealer & Honda at worst break even (Liability Insurance pays their cost) Sgt... at best waits years gets a few bucks (and gives most of it to the lawyer); at worst he's in jail for fraud. The dealer may be wrong or lying about hydrolock but deeper digging will likely reveal the root cause and it won't be a random failure.

 

[CIVICSPORT]

That's exactly what's happening.

Can you tell us about your tune? Who wrote it for you?

 

[Myx]

Can you tell us about your tune? Who wrote it for you?

15 pages in and this wasn't revealed yet?

 

[WOPSiWOT]

15 pages in and this wasn't revealed yet?

I think he altered the boost tables in a base map. Maybe fuel too? It’s somewhere in the thread.

 

[invader]

Sourced my own engine for 1500$ cdn, the only positive so far is the new motor only has 6000km on it, they quoted 9 hours for install and 6 hours for diagnostic. So close to 2000$ for labor. All in all not as bad as I thought, but still not good. I'm going this route because fighting the warranty claim through the proper channels can take months and I need a car.

6 hours for past diagnostics already done? Can't someone else do the engine swap labor for less? Could you just keep your engine and upgrade the rods instead?

 

[tacthecat]

Naming names - without proof that the unmodified tune caused the problem - is a lawsuit waiting to happen. Not to mention needlessly killing a tuners reputation.

 

[17siturb0]

Well regardless we need to know. Another shop could do it for less. They are raping you.

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