VitTuned Initial Civic Si Testing

[zx2down]

Never heard of Clutch Masters.

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[VitViper]

Never heard of Clutch Masters.

Time to climb out from under whatever rock you've been living under LOL.

 

[SkyeHack]

What stage clutch did you pickup Vit?

 

[VitViper]

What stage clutch did you pickup Vit?

There was no stage when I had this one built for us. I've been sitting on it for like 2 months lol

 

[Syntek]

Clutch masters clutch? Fucking sexy.

 

[zx2down]

Time to climb out from under whatever rock you've been living under LOL.

Driving an Altima for 5 yrs kinda does that.

 

[zroger73]

EX-T ("base") vs Si flywheel. Both are dual mass. On visual inspection they look identical. Down to the 31.4lb weight.

Well, that's...very interesting...to say the least.

EX-T manual flywheel
Part Number: 22100-5CC-003
List Price: $839.08

Si flywheel
Part Number: 22100-5CD-003
List Price: $134.83

In exploded parts diagrams, they look identical as well. The press releases on Honda's website no longer reference a "single mass flywheel" on the Si (but, I guaran-damn-tee they did several weeks ago - I read it with my very own eyeballs and this was before the Type R press releases were issued). On the Type R, the press release references a single-mass flywheel that reduces inertia by 25%. In hindsight, the powertrain is rather smooth and quiet considering my expectations of a single mass flywheel based on initial information.

 

[elusiveaura]

So what's the cost on a clutch like that if we want to get one? Or is it only for testing purposes?

Well, that's...very interesting...to say the least.

EX-T manual flywheel
Part Number: 22100-5CC-003
List Price: $839.08

Si flywheel
Part Number: 22100-5CD-003
List Price: $134.83

In exploded parts diagrams, they look identical as well. The press releases on Honda's website no longer reference a "single mass flywheel" on the Si (but, I guaran-damn-tee they did several weeks ago - I read it with my very own eyeballs and this was before the Type R press releases were issued). On the Type R, the press release references a single-mass flywheel that reduces inertia by 25%. In hindsight, the powertrain is rather smooth and quiet considering my expectations of a single mass flywheel based on initial information.

 

[fiend busa]

So what's the cost on a clutch like that if we want to get one? Or is it only for testing purposes?

I think someone said $500+.

 

[elusiveaura]

Excited to see his test results once he does his magic on the new one.

I think someone said $500+.

 

[zx2down]

So what's the cost on a clutch like that if we want to get one? Or is it only for testing purposes?

Going by products on their site it will be about 475-650 range.

 

[fiend busa]

Going by products on their site it will be about 475-650 range.

Nice, almost $1000 cad hahaha....haha.....ha..........

 

[VitViper]

Well, that's...very interesting...to say the least.

EX-T manual flywheel
Part Number: 22100-5CC-003
List Price: $839.08

Si flywheel
Part Number: 22100-5CD-003
List Price: $134.83

In exploded parts diagrams, they look identical as well. The press releases on Honda's website no longer reference a "single mass flywheel" on the Si (but, I guaran-damn-tee they did several weeks ago - I read it with my very own eyeballs and this was before the Type R press releases were issued). On the Type R, the press release references a single-mass flywheel that reduces inertia by 25%. In hindsight, the powertrain is rather smooth and quiet considering my expectations of a single mass flywheel based on initial information.

Yup I was quite surprised when it came out dual mass. When I tried to order the Si part number I was told it was a forward order part number and would we a while before we could get one. I suspect the flywheel weren't ready when the Si was shipping so they put the ext one in. Probably going to see a mid year update silently...

 

[zroger73]

Yup I was quite surprised when it came out dual mass. When I tried to order the Si part number I was told it was a forward order part number and would we a while before we could get one. I suspect the flywheel weren't ready when the Si was shipping so they put the ext one in. Probably going to see a mid year update silently...

My initial instinct is to be furious with Honda and demand that they replace my DMF with a SMF. However, I did not purchase this car based on the type of flywheel (I thought) it had based on press releases (that have now been quietly revised). I wonder if Honda may have changed their mind and decided to continue using the DMF going forward for some reason such as availability or NVH.

What I find even more odd is that I can't locate a single trace of a reference to the 2017 Si getting a SMF. Am I going senile or did Honda not say the Si was getting a SMF then erase all references to it from the internet?

However, not being a tuner or a racer I would probably have never known the difference, anyway, had it not come up in this post, so I'm just not going to worry about it and I'm going to continue to enjoy my Si the way it came.

 

[Lume80]

My initial instinct is to be furious with Honda and demand that they replace my DMF with a SMF. However, I did not purchase this car based on the type of flywheel (I thought) it had based on press releases (that have now been quietly revised). I wonder if Honda may have changed their mind and decided to continue using the DMF going forward for some reason such as availability or NVH.

What I find even more odd is that I can't locate a single trace of a reference to the 2017 Si getting a SMF. Am I going senile or did Honda not say the Si was getting a SMF then erase all references to it from the internet?

However, not being a tuner or a racer I would probably have never known the difference, anyway, had it not come up in this post, so I'm just not going to worry about it and I'm going to continue to enjoy my Si the way it came.

You aren't the only one that read SMF, it was on Honda's spec sheet, and now it's not there, as well as the advertised 20.3 psi, feeling a tad cheated...an SMF would have made the manual transmission that much more enjoyable

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