CastorX
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- First Name
- Balázs
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- Jul 8, 2019
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- Civic 1.5 Turbo Sport Plus
Yeah, it’s strage. But actually not the eu is the one forcing turbos and small displacement engines, at least not directly. They are forcing low consumption to car makers. And the test method they used forced car makers to use amall engines and turbos, because that was the combination that fulfilled the requirements but as you wrote only in the tests! Not in the real word. VW is the master of small displacement engines. Here every base model comes with 1.0 L turbo, and it has been like that in the last 10 years.
However, I can’t say that those cars actually consume more, but smaller engine as you wrote does not mean smaller consumption. My current civic 1.5 turbo consumes less than my previous 1.8 na in every traffic situation and the 1.8 was 50-80 kg lighter. BUT (you can check Spritmonitor.de/en) the real world difference between the 1.0T civic and the 1.5T civic -10th gen- is 0.2 l/100 km. The 1.0 consumes better with 3 cylinder, but still, 0.2l/100km is basically nothing! The official difference -according to the EU consumption test- is 0.8 l/100km or so. Some real world values from Spritmonitor:
please note, that most users are from Europe, the traffic situations, and so on are somewhat different here, the distances smaller mostly with a some traffic jam. Oh, and many cars are equipped with engine idle stop/start, and trim levels are usually higher than in the US.
Civic 10th gen 2.0 TurboMT (320 PS): 9.08l/100km (But who cares, this is the TypeR)
Civic 10th gen 1.5 Turbo MT (182 PS): 6.6l/100km
Civic 10th gen 1.0 Turbo MT (124 PS): 6.37l/100km
Civic 10th gen 1.5 Turbo Diesel MT: 5 l/100km
Civic 9th gen 1.8 na MT (140 PS): 7.14 l/100km
Civic 8th gen 1.8 na MT (140 PS): 7.66l/100km
VW Golf 7 GTi Turbo (220 PS) MT: 8.0l/100km
VW Golf 7 1.5 Turbo (150 PS) MT: 6.76l/100km
VW Golf 7 1.4 Turbo (125 PS) MT: 6.41l/100km
VW Golf 7 1.0 Turbo (110 PS) MT: 6.0l/100km
VW Passat 1.5 Turbo (150PS) MT: 6.7l/100km
VW Passat 2.0 TD (150 PS) MT: 5.8l/100km
Audi A3 1.0 Turbo (116 PS) MT: 6.04l/100km
-The passat is more likely to me used on longer travels tho, thats the reason why the 1.5 Golf has somewhat worse fuel economy with the 1.5 Turbo.
- Yes, there is a Diesel civic
- Yes, the base engine for the Audi A3 is a puny 116 PS 1.0 liter turbo
I think the civic’s 1.5 T engine actually came out to be good, at least in performance and fuel economy. Still, it would be nice to have the 2.0 na as an option here too. I have found no entries for the 2.0.
However, I can’t say that those cars actually consume more, but smaller engine as you wrote does not mean smaller consumption. My current civic 1.5 turbo consumes less than my previous 1.8 na in every traffic situation and the 1.8 was 50-80 kg lighter. BUT (you can check Spritmonitor.de/en) the real world difference between the 1.0T civic and the 1.5T civic -10th gen- is 0.2 l/100 km. The 1.0 consumes better with 3 cylinder, but still, 0.2l/100km is basically nothing! The official difference -according to the EU consumption test- is 0.8 l/100km or so. Some real world values from Spritmonitor:
please note, that most users are from Europe, the traffic situations, and so on are somewhat different here, the distances smaller mostly with a some traffic jam. Oh, and many cars are equipped with engine idle stop/start, and trim levels are usually higher than in the US.
Civic 10th gen 2.0 TurboMT (320 PS): 9.08l/100km (But who cares, this is the TypeR)
Civic 10th gen 1.5 Turbo MT (182 PS): 6.6l/100km
Civic 10th gen 1.0 Turbo MT (124 PS): 6.37l/100km
Civic 10th gen 1.5 Turbo Diesel MT: 5 l/100km
Civic 9th gen 1.8 na MT (140 PS): 7.14 l/100km
Civic 8th gen 1.8 na MT (140 PS): 7.66l/100km
VW Golf 7 GTi Turbo (220 PS) MT: 8.0l/100km
VW Golf 7 1.5 Turbo (150 PS) MT: 6.76l/100km
VW Golf 7 1.4 Turbo (125 PS) MT: 6.41l/100km
VW Golf 7 1.0 Turbo (110 PS) MT: 6.0l/100km
VW Passat 1.5 Turbo (150PS) MT: 6.7l/100km
VW Passat 2.0 TD (150 PS) MT: 5.8l/100km
Audi A3 1.0 Turbo (116 PS) MT: 6.04l/100km
-The passat is more likely to me used on longer travels tho, thats the reason why the 1.5 Golf has somewhat worse fuel economy with the 1.5 Turbo.
- Yes, there is a Diesel civic
- Yes, the base engine for the Audi A3 is a puny 116 PS 1.0 liter turbo
I think the civic’s 1.5 T engine actually came out to be good, at least in performance and fuel economy. Still, it would be nice to have the 2.0 na as an option here too. I have found no entries for the 2.0.
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