Two obd2 ports?

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Hello civic si owners

So I was moving my car at work and noticed some wires hanging near the clutch so I did some investigating and it looked like the dealer installed some sort of obd2 port anyone else have this and if so what is it for?

Located in Cali

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I believe Lojack is a 100% self contained unit, with no wires going to, or coming from the Lojack Module. That's the while point.. it cannot be found by tracing wires, and cannot be disabled by cutting wires.


If the DEALER installed this "extra" wiring, they should be able to, and SHOULD be willing to, tell you what they did, and why.
 
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Went to a different Honda dealership (i work for a body shop) and they informed me that it looks like a tracker. I am having them have a Honda tech look at it and will find out exactly what it is.
 
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Looked into this deeper the dealer spliced a tracking device on my vehicle and I am having them remove it
 

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Looked into this deeper the dealer spliced a tracking device on my vehicle and I am having them remove it
They also need to replace any and all wiring harnesses that have been compromised. I would be LIVID.
 

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I've heard of 'buy here pay here' style used car dealers putting trackers on what they sell, but a new Honda? That's messed up.
 

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I've heard of 'buy here pay here' style used car dealers putting trackers on what they sell, but a new Honda? That's messed up.
Unfortunately, these devices are becoming as ubiquitous as pin striping, paint protection, VIN etching, and nitrogen. Honda even says "don't use nitrogen", but dealers do it, anyway, and try to charge people hundreds of dollars for it. The cost for these items is so low that they can easily afford to install them on every vehicle on the lot as standard procedure.
 
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Did they charge you for this tracking device that was installed without your knowledge?
 

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This seems to be happening too frequently. I can remember several threads on here from memory of people with brand new Civics that discovered some tracking device just as you did.

This is totally unacceptable and I feel like Honda needs to put a stop to dealerships installing trackers in new vehicles without customer knowledge. You should complain to Honda corporate.
 

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This seems to be happening too frequently. I can remember several threads on here from memory of people with brand new Civics that discovered some tracking device just as you did.

This is totally unacceptable and I feel like Honda needs to put a stop to dealerships installing trackers in new vehicles without customer knowledge. You should complain to Honda corporate.
Unfortunately, there's not much Honda can do. All dealers are independently owned and buy vehicles from Honda for the same price for resale. The most Honda can do is send a memo to dealers recommending that they avoid this practice and reminding them that Honda's warranty doesn't cover damage caused by the installation or non-Honda accessories. Dealers, however, are hardheaded and greedy - they choose to assume the risk involved by installing unauthorized accessories. They won't stop until they start paying more in repairs caused by the installation of these accessories than what they make by selling them.
 

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Looked into this deeper the dealer spliced a tracking device on my vehicle and I am having them remove it
I'm also in Cali...SoCal...may I ask what dealership you purchased your car from? It wouldn't happen to be Cerritos Norm Reeves Honda would it?

So we've determined it's a tracking device but WHY are they wanting to know where the car has been?
 

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Unfortunately, there's not much Honda can do. All dealers are independently owned and buy vehicles from Honda for the same price for resale. The most Honda can do is send a memo to dealers recommending that they avoid this practice and reminding them that Honda's warranty doesn't cover damage caused by the installation or non-Honda accessories. Dealers, however, are hardheaded and greedy - they choose to assume the risk involved by installing unauthorized accessories. They won't stop until they start paying more in repairs caused by the installation of these accessories than what they make by selling them.
It's not an accessory if you don't know it's there. It's stalking. Unless they informed you there was a tracking device installed, they are in the wrong ethically and (potentially) legally.

Unless the dealership owns your loan or got your loan through a shady lender, there would be no reason for them to spend the money and labor installing it. Once they get paid out the sum of the loan from the lender, they shouldn't care anymore.
 

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I'm also in Cali...SoCal...may I ask what dealership you purchased your car from? It wouldn't happen to be Cerritos Norm Reeves Honda would it?

So we've determined it's a tracking device but WHY are they wanting to know where the car has been?
It's not an accessory if you don't know it's there. It's stalking. Unless they informed you there was a tracking device installed, they are in the wrong ethically and (potentially) legally.

Unless the dealership owns your loan or got your loan through a shady lender, there would be no reason for them to spend the money and labor installing it. Once they get paid out the sum of the loan from the lender, they shouldn't care anymore.
Often, these are alarms or anti-theft devices and not necessarily tracking devices. Tracking devices should not be activated unless the customer agrees to and pays for the monitoring service, although the hardware may be present.

Many vehicles these days (including several Honda models) include hardware from the factory that is capable of tracking the vehicle as part of the infotainment system, but the tracking feature must be activated and the vehicle can only be tracked by the owner and/or law enforcement.
 
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