Turbo Upgrade Sneak Peek

[CIVICSPORT]

That's a huge difference... I don't think a 1.5L would spool an impeller wheel that large... is this just a blown up photo on the right hand side. If not... LOL

A few millimeters larger is usually a game changer... that things is about 200% bigger

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[SilverGhost]

I'm sure Vit has something up his sleeve to make this a drop in Turbo.

 

[Snoopyslr]

Anybody have a T6 flange laying around?

 

[SilverGhost]

Anybody have a T6 flange laying around?

Oh yea?Here ya go

 

[360glitch]

That's a huge difference... I don't think a 1.5L would spool an impeller wheel that large... is this just a blown up photo on the right hand side. If not... LOL

A few millimeters larger is usually a game changer... that things is about 200% bigger

Because I apparently have too much time on my hands I'm going to throw out an estimate, on the assumption that the photo provided is an OEM compressor wheel vs the "upgrade" wheel, side by side. I *think* the OEM compressor wheel has an exducer of approximately 52mm. I'm estimating the other one to be about 66mm. If that is the case, it's about a 27% increase. The "new" wheel looks like it would be significant taller if you laid them both down flat. All of this guessing may be a waste of time but we get to speculate until Vit puts more out there for us.

 

[maddmatt02]

So when's that damn clutchcoming? Lol. I got a friend who is "good acquaintances" with somebody who does this sort of thing and asked them about the civic and has been on my case since then "Buy the crv turbo man and send it to them. Get the upgrade. Be the first!" Lol.

This is definitely on my to do list but don't really want the ability to make MORE power when we can ALREADY make more than we can hold. I need the clutch to be a reality... Lol

 

[choo]

Guys, its not that big...lol. Its just the angle of the picture.

Now, I have no idea how big the stock wheel is, but lets assume 40mm inducer since its a 13g.

So Ill get out my MS-Paint ruler....the wheel on the right appears to be ~20% larger (very roughly lol)

That puts us at 44mm inducer...about the size of a td05-16g. This turbo is easily capable of 300whp.


A 2.0 at 8.5:1 compression with no VCT/VVT/VVL will spool a 16g by 3500rpm. Our little motor is only a 1.5, sure, but we also have 10.5:1 compression and VCT on both sides...Not to mention the turbo is bolted directly to the damn cylinder head. I don't think we will be that far behind.

 

[VitViper]

You may experience some fitment issues if you're going to try putting that compressor into a TD03 housing.

LoL you clearly know something more than we do... after we've measured, and remeasured and are machining it.

So when's that damn clutchcoming? Lol. I got a friend who is "good acquaintances" with somebody who does this sort of thing and asked them about the civic and has been on my case since then "Buy the crv turbo man and send it to them. Get the upgrade. Be the first!" Lol.

This is definitely on my to do list but don't really want the ability to make MORE power when we can ALREADY make more than we can hold. I need the clutch to be a reality... Lol

Clutch is on it's way too. It's a lot of $$$ to be the "first". Tooling has to be made to make this upgrade, it's not just a wheel swap lol.

Guys, its not that big...lol. Its just the angle of the picture.

Now, I have no idea how big the stock wheel is, but lets assume 40mm inducer since its a 13g.

So Ill get out my MS-Paint ruler....the wheel on the right appears to be ~20% larger (very roughly lol)

That puts us at 44mm inducer...about the size of a td05-16g. This turbo is easily capable of 300whp.


A 2.0 at 8.5:1 compression with no VCT/VVT/VVL will spool a 16g by 3500rpm. Our little motor is only a 1.5, sure, but we also have 10.5:1 compression and VCT on both sides...Not to mention the turbo is bolted directly to the damn cylinder head. I don't think we will be that far behind.

This turbo will be good for another 100hp over what we've got. So depending on fuel & motor limitations, expected 300-340whp capability. Past that we'll have to explore other options, but I think a drop in turbo that can make 300hp easily is going to be a good bang.

 

[Civics4Ever]

This turbo will be good for another 100hp over what we've got. So depending on fuel & motor limitations, expected 300-340whp capability. Past that we'll have to explore other options, but I think a drop in turbo that can make 300hp easily is going to be a good bang.

Does that mean the internals will handle the extra power with no problems?

 

[choo]

With the slower spool of a larger turbo, we wont see as much rod-bending low end torque , but will be able to hold full boost till redline. If anything a larger turbo should be easier on the motor as long as you stay within its limits.

Personally I would still tune for ~275tq peak and then ramp the boost to get some more power out of it...Id think it should be perfectly safe at 300whp.

 

[SilverGhost]

With the slower spool of a larger turbo, we wont see as much rod-bending low end torque , but will be able to hold full boost till redline. If anything a larger turbo should be easier on the motor as long as you stay within its limits.

Personally I would still tune for ~275tq peak and then ramp the boost to get some more power out of it...Id think it should be perfectly safe at 300whp.

So much for a Type R.Our 1.5-t is gonna be the type V.

 

[VitViper]

This turbo will be good for another 100hp over what we've got. So depending on fuel & motor limitations, expected 300-340whp capability. Past that we'll have to explore other options, but I think a drop in turbo that can make 300hp easily is going to be a good bang.

Does that mean the internals will handle the extra power with no problems?

The stock motor was holding nearly 300wtq in our testing with the tiny turbo. All mid range too.

With the slower spool of a larger turbo, we wont see as much rod-bending low end torque , but will be able to hold full boost till redline. If anything a larger turbo should be easier on the motor as long as you stay within its limits.

Personally I would still tune for ~275tq peak and then ramp the boost to get some more power out of it...Id think it should be perfectly safe at 300whp.

This. 300whp @ 6000rpm is about 270tq. We actually run a raised rev limiter (7k) on our test car, which contrary to some "opinion" I saw posted recently, is perfectly safe and hasn't float any valves on our car. We'll see how this new turbo performs -- the goal is to get us a better top end and hold power to 6600-6800 rpm, which should make this one quick little car.

 

[Snoopyslr]

LoL you clearly know something more than we do... after we've measured, and remeasured and are machining it.

Jokes aren't your strong point I see.

 

[VitViper]

Jokes aren't your strong point I see.

Jokes and sarcasm don't translate well in posts.

 

[16civicFLA]

All this talk what about for the cvt...? Lol how much do you think it will be able to handle..is it worth the upgraded Turbo?? @VitViper

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