I agree with you, but like me, you have the non-Si turbo. I definitely feel like I can get good mpg's and reduce wear and tear going moderate on the throttle no matter what map I'm using. From what I'm reading here, the Si might be set up differently in regard to throttle position and boost targets.
Search around, you'll find those results. TSP isn't tuning squat anyway, it's Derek that's done all the testing, tuning, and dynoing. You're not telling us anything we don't already know. Derek isn't fluffing/inflating any numbers. Besides, the delta is what matters, as well as the performance on the street/track. If the tune wasn't making the power it says it is, it wouldn't result in faster ET's and trap speeds. Of course, results will vary by conditions, fuel, dyno, locale etc.This was taken from an article talking about HP and TQ numbers “. The Dyno operator and the actual Dyno machine style give different HP numbers, air moisture content, altitude, fuel style and quality, and so on can also change HP ratings.”
Here is a graph showing one company and their dyno results on my bike, completely stock.
The other graph is my actual bike from my mechanics dyno. The HP line isn’t much lower but it is lower than the other graph. The TQ line is much lower. Now how much will that change once your over 200 HP and TQ?
And the dyno results we see are from the companies themselves, not a 3rd party not affiliated with either to give an unbiased opinion. All companies inflate their numbers making one believe theirs is the best choice.
You could take our car, the Si, both OTS tunes from MAP and TSP, not a custom tune, take it to 5 shops that each have a different “Brand” dyno and you’ll get 5 different results. That’s the results I want to see. How much of a difference there really is between both these companies.
I don't think too many people care how MAP tunes compare, since hardly no one is running them, and for good reason. That's likely why you haven't seen any independent dynos of that product.
@gtman explained ramp excellently. I’ll dive in on BBG settings on the TSP Stage 1 tune from my experience, I’m by no means an expert. There are already some boost limits of sorts in gear 1 and 2. The full Monty 24.5 psi is available in 3,4,5,6. I left 1,2,3 alone because I wasn’t blowing the tires off. 4th I set the BBG to 20psi with ramp (full boost after 4K rpm) just to limit stress on clutch under 4K. I limit boost to 15psi in 5,6 to also reduce stress on clutch....besides, 4th is good for well over 100mph, having full power in 5,6 is useless to me, so might as well save my clutch. Having zero issues right now and will keep it that way for many years.Hey @Gotch & @fenix-silver (or anyone for that matter)
I've seen a decent amount of threads regarding the does and donts in order to save our cars clutches, rods/pistons etc... after getting ktuner TSP Stage 1. The only one i have is @amirza786 "joined the Ktuner world" which was plenty helpful. Would you guys happen to have any "Watched Threads" that would dive further into ktuner and what "ramp" & "bbg" mean or "how to's" in order to setup these safety measures? Just stuff of that nature. I apologize for being lazy and not taking the time to really search through all threads regarding this common topic (im at work lol). Dont trip if you guys dont have any saved, just curious so it can save me some time lol
So my KTuner with the TSP Stage 1 arrives tomorrow and I've never used anything like KTuner before. How do I go about limiting PSI by gear? I want to limit the boost in 5th and 6th so I can, hopefully, preserve the clutch for longer.
After you open the tune in KTuner you can still change certain available settings from the left column. Theres a page for boost by gear, with 6 dropdowns 1 for each gear. Set how you want them, save the file as a seperate tune (save as) so you still have the OTB TSP tune and flash with the modified. This way you can always compare to your own tweaks if you want or need.
