Trouble At The Dealership...

[Rickmeister 48]

This seems to be an all too common issue with dealer service departments.

Don't know if you saw my other post,but not only did they over fill the oil,they didn't put the sheild back on correctly and used some wrong screws also. Still used the wrong screws after I took it back and specifically Asked for them to put the right ones back on.

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[latole]

I drove with overfilled since FF so 10,000 miles. I finally had them put on the ticket, 'concerned oil was overfilled' and would you believe that something so trivial caused them to respond and when I checked (now will check right at the dealer) when I got home (big no no, always let the car sit for a few minutes and check before leaving the dealer service) it was right below the top hash mark. The thing I noticed is the oil wasn't as light colored after the 2nd oil change as it was after the first. Anyone notice this, could this just be normal or could they have not changed the oil and just removed enough to bring it below the top hashmark? So paranoid about the dealers now. They didn't rotate my tires on last visit and now I suspect they might not have ever. So hard.

...always let the car sit for a few minutes...

IMO you have to wait more than few minutes, oil is every where in the engine non in the oil pan. Sure dipstick show low level .

Wait at least half hour.

 

[Dylan1.5T]

Hi everyone I'd truly appreciate any help you could give me, I know this will be long. I own a 2017 Honda Hatchback Sport with the CVT transmission. I know the car very well, the RPMs it hits on the highway, the mileage it gets, and I also drive as an enthusiast with the paddle shifters.

Anyway it was time for my oil change and the recall on the 3 way coolant valve. So I took the car into the dealer and was treated not so great. First of all they hadn't heard of the recall and looked it up; then acted very surprised that I had told the truth. lol. I also told them that it shouldn't be that hard to get to, they really didn't reply.

So I go in and wait and an hour later the guy comes back and says, "Hey that coolant valve really wasn't that hard to get to!" He acted very surprised and suddenly treated me very nice (call me paranoid but that was just fishy).

So I drive home and everything seems fine for a few days. Then I start noticing the RPMs are much higher on the interstate 500-700 rpms higher at 70mph (one of the calling cards of this transmission was the amazingly low RPMs on the highway). It also had to rev much higher to produce power and the CVT became erratic - revving super high without putting down power when I have it some gas.

I was also averaging about 5-6mpg less than before in normal driving. THEN I tried sport mode with the paddle shifters which I love to use. First of all usually I need to shift to 2nd around 20-25mph, but I could now go close to 40 in first, and 70 in 3rd. It's like the gears had become unbelievably long. Also when I would hit the gas the RPM's would drop by about 4-500, then start back up like normal. Torque in low rpms was really low and sluggish.

So I knew something was wrong. I took it to another dealer (I didn't want that dealer touching it again) and they also treated me a bit cold, when I told them the symptoms they asked if it had any warning lights on. When I said no they immediately tried to dissuade me from pursuing the issue, saying that "CVT transmission are like that - I hate them".

I then proceeded to tell him that I love to drive and that this CVT "used" to be quite responsive. I asked if they could diagnose a car without a warning light and he said yes, so they agreed to look at it.

I wait again. The guy comes out acting surprised and says, "That car had 1.5 liters too much oil in it!"

So they drained it and put the right amount back in. They told me to drive it a while and let it "relearn". They said they couldn't find anything mechanically wrong, but I wonder if the guys at the first dealership might have taken apart the intake, turbo etc. and not put it back together correctly?

It's driving better but still feels "off". Gas mileage is down, it runs at 2500 rpms at 70 on the interstate (used to fall back to 2k or lower), it revs to quickly causing the green fuel saving like to disappear really quickly when the gas is touched on the interstate. It bogs down if the gas is hit quickly in succession, the rpms still dip when you give it gas in each simulated gear. Gears are all still really long, torque is much reduced, below 2500 rpms the car has very little power. Gas mileage is still down a bit.

I'm trying to figure this out. It's bad enough right now that I might trade the car in and get something else. It is not undrivable, but it's about 80% of the car I had before the oil change issue. I go out for spirited drives and it's not driving good at all.

So I'm wondering what you guys thing and if you think it will "relearn" the gearing ratios that I loved so much? Should I take it to a regular mechanic that will actually try to find the issue? Any thoughts on these symptoms?

Thanks so much for reading all of this and I hope to find an answer!

Jay

I know this is a really old post but im having the same issues on my car. No codes or anything. Came out of nowhere. Had the battery die and recharged it and the next time i drove it been doing the exact same things as you. Just wondering if the relearn worked for you. Took it to the shop thinking i was having transmission issues but they couldnt find anything.

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