FK7 Civic Pilot
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Update 1: Switched from Hondata Carb to Ktuner V2 with Phearable OTS tune
Update 2: 8 month Phearable non-SI 1.5 tune use, oil analysis changes are in italics and underlined.
Vehicle: 2017 Civic LX Hatchback
Total tuned time: 5 years
Tuned miles driven: 40,000
Tuning device(s) used: Hondata CARB Flashpro (4 years ) ; currently using KTuner V2 ( 8 months)
Tunes used: Previous - Hondata +6 Carb with custom tweaking by MakSpeed. Current - Phearable Non-Si Stage 1.5 street tune w/27Won intake option
Fuel used: Costco 91 octane
Additional related mods: 27Won CAI hybrid, Prodrager cat back exhaust
Problems/issues: None ( mechanical or tune related )
* minor issues - ( for me ) There is a learning curve when it came to installing and running the KTuner. The Flashpro Carb software was intuitive for a novice, easy to install, and easy to use Bluetooth gauge display and having the cable to the flashpro module routed in a unobtrusive manner. The Ktuner software is a bit more complicated to figure out, and finding a place for the V2 module is a challenge to have a clean looking installation without exposed cable.
Driving style: current - Daily Driver with 80% going for part throttle economy (41.5 mpg average summer blend, 39.5mpg winter blend) remaining 20% off road & canyon carving
Misc Comments: Was pretty happy with the Flashpro Carb tune as a daily driver, biggest drawback was only 1 tune can be used at any given time. Was intrigued by the Phearable / KTuner's ability to "switch on the fly" change of tunes.
Update: Slight drop in overall mpg since the switch to using the KTuner over the Hondata, roughly 1 mpg penalty with everything else being equal, In return, a more useable powerband is available with the Ktuner / Phearable tune. Continue to be impressed with how well the KTuner / Phearable tune works with keeping LTFT within + 0 / -2 and STFT within + 5/ - 5 during drives.
Latest Blackstone oil analysis shows the tune doesn't seem to be causing any undo accelerated wear on the engine. Other than a slight issue with fuel disolution, all the other numbers looked good. For the record, I change the oil every 4,000 miles along with the filter, have been using Penzoil Platinum 0-20 exclusively. Would be nice if other folks also post up samples of their oil analysis if they have them to track engine wear as part of the tuned experience and data collection.
Update 2: 8 month Phearable non-SI 1.5 tune use, oil analysis changes are in italics and underlined.
Vehicle: 2017 Civic LX Hatchback
Total tuned time: 5 years
Tuned miles driven: 40,000
Tuning device(s) used: Hondata CARB Flashpro (4 years ) ; currently using KTuner V2 ( 8 months)
Tunes used: Previous - Hondata +6 Carb with custom tweaking by MakSpeed. Current - Phearable Non-Si Stage 1.5 street tune w/27Won intake option
Fuel used: Costco 91 octane
Additional related mods: 27Won CAI hybrid, Prodrager cat back exhaust
Problems/issues: None ( mechanical or tune related )
* minor issues - ( for me ) There is a learning curve when it came to installing and running the KTuner. The Flashpro Carb software was intuitive for a novice, easy to install, and easy to use Bluetooth gauge display and having the cable to the flashpro module routed in a unobtrusive manner. The Ktuner software is a bit more complicated to figure out, and finding a place for the V2 module is a challenge to have a clean looking installation without exposed cable.
Driving style: current - Daily Driver with 80% going for part throttle economy (41.5 mpg average summer blend, 39.5mpg winter blend) remaining 20% off road & canyon carving
Misc Comments: Was pretty happy with the Flashpro Carb tune as a daily driver, biggest drawback was only 1 tune can be used at any given time. Was intrigued by the Phearable / KTuner's ability to "switch on the fly" change of tunes.
Update: Slight drop in overall mpg since the switch to using the KTuner over the Hondata, roughly 1 mpg penalty with everything else being equal, In return, a more useable powerband is available with the Ktuner / Phearable tune. Continue to be impressed with how well the KTuner / Phearable tune works with keeping LTFT within + 0 / -2 and STFT within + 5/ - 5 during drives.
Latest Blackstone oil analysis shows the tune doesn't seem to be causing any undo accelerated wear on the engine. Other than a slight issue with fuel disolution, all the other numbers looked good. For the record, I change the oil every 4,000 miles along with the filter, have been using Penzoil Platinum 0-20 exclusively. Would be nice if other folks also post up samples of their oil analysis if they have them to track engine wear as part of the tuned experience and data collection.
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