The Tuned CivicX Experience & Reliability Thread (for all models)

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Closing in on 600 cars in the thread. :thumbsup:


Current thread stats and info:

Total tuned cars submitted: 595

Total tuned miles driven: 8,403,950 (reported)
Car with most tuned miles: choo (101,000+)

Cars with major failures: 15 (2.5%)
Failures by model: Si: 3; Non-Si: 12; CTR: 0; 2.0 NA: 0
Failures by tune type: Base: 7; OTS: 2; Custom: 6

Percentage of cars running reliably: 97.5%

Transmission type: CVT (190); Manual (405)

Hondata used for tuning: 125; Race (109) Carb (16)
KTuner used for tuning: 496; V1.2 (281) V2 (215)

JB4 used as tuning device: 3
RaceChip used as tuning device: 4
Motec used as tuning device: 3

Pro custom tuned cars: 112
Base tuned only cars: 176

Most popular OTS tune: TSP Stage 1 (259)
Other popular OTS tune: Phearable Stage 1.5 (102)
Newest OTS tunes: TSP 1+ (14); Phearable 1.5R (8)

Top rated pro tuners: Derek Robinson, John Vega

Submissions by model: Si (270); 1.5T Non-Si (263); Type R (43); 2.0 NA (19)

Most popular fuel: 93 octane (307)
Flex fuel users: 63

Cars with no added bolt ons: 191
Cars with at least one bolt on: 283
Cars running full bolt on setups: 121

Upgraded turbos installed: 41





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Vehicle: 2020 Civic Hatchback Sport CVT

Total tuned time: 6 months

Tuned miles driven: 3000+

Tuning device(s) used: KTuner V2

Tunes used: TSP Stage 1, Map 3 (Eco Mode)

Fuel used: Costco 91 + 1 Gallon G&M E85

Additional related mods: 27WON Intake, Greddy Supreme SP Exhaust

Problems/issues: None

Driving style: Conservative, with a couple of WOTs on the highway and empty streets.
 
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Vehicle: 2017 Civic Hatchback Sport Manual

Total tuned time: 11 months

Tuned miles driven: 15k+

Tuning device(s) used: Hondata Flashpro (race)

Tunes used: +9 psi high octane, 265kpa max 93 octane

Fuel used: Sunoco 93 Ultra

Additional related mods: Mishimoto Intake, RV6 downpipe/front pipe, Borla Type S exhaust

Problems/issues: I had a few issues with the +9 psi tune at WOT. CEL would come on, car would misfire and go into limp mode. Usually on WOT pulls in 3rd or 4th gear

Driving style: Tame when in and around town but more aggressive when in opened up areas such as highways or long straights.

Tuning experience notes: I haven't had any misfires since switching to the 265kpa tune, even on WOT hitting redline
 

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Vehicle: 2018 Civic Hatchback Sport CVT

Total tuned time: 4 days

Tuned miles driven: ~200 tuned (7750 total)

Tuning device(s) used: Ktuner V2

Tunes used: Phearable 1.5 Non-Si

Fuel used: 93 octane from Phillips 66

Additional related mods: None

Problems/issues: None

Driving style: Very easy during warm up. After warm up I drive a bit spirited but for me that means actually getting over 3500rpm. I don't have a daily drive so when I do it's usually just to get out and drive. Most miles are highway ~85%. I always leave it in D.

Tuning experience notes: This tune is smooth. I can't believe it actually. The stock experience is notably less refined feeling, at least to me. This is the first time I've done an ECU tune and so far it is beyond worth it. These cars deserve to feel this way from the factory. The way it pulls after jabbing the throttle, while already moving, puts me back in the seat just like I wanted. I've used Map 3 exclusively post initial 30 minute drive, and it is very daily friendly. I really liked my Civic before. Now I love it. I'll definitely be updating over the months/years to come.
~1 month update. 8300 total miles, 550 tuned miles. No issues yet.
 

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Vehicle: 2020 Hatchback Sport

Total tuned time: 12 months

Tuned miles driven: ~10,000

Tuning device(s) used: KTuner V2

Tunes used: TSP Stage 1

Fuel used: 93 Octane

Additional related mods: PRL Short Ram Intake

Problems/issues: None

Driving style: 50/50 calm/aggressive

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Closing in on 600 cars in the thread. :thumbsup:


Current thread stats and info:

Failures by tune type: Base: 7; OTS: 2; Custom: 6
Nearly as many custom as base map failures. I wouldn't have expected that.
 
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Nearly as many custom as base map failures. I wouldn't have expected that.
My theory is that OTS tunes are safest because the tuners lock them down to changes and are super protected down low.

On the other hand, the base tunes allow for aggressive user tweaking. And the custom tunes generally are outputting the highest power.
 

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Sooooo my k.con hit 1.05 today in the 19.5/23.5 tune doing a pull in sport mode. My knock count was only 3... is this good/bad/REALLY BAD????? Switching back to factory/21.5
 
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Very bad. It should never get that high.

Possibly a bad batch of gas. What does k. control look like with the lower power tune?

BTW, knock count is basically meaningless. Unless you are seeing hundreds in a small time frame.
 

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UPDATE: Added a W1 Turbo and a re-tune from my trusty tuner @phearable

Vehicle: 2020 Civic SI

Total tuned time: 6 months

Tuned miles driven: 12,500+

Tuning device(s) used: Ktuner V1.2 w/ Tunerview on an Amazon Fire 7 Tablet

Turbo Upgrade: 27WON W1

Tunes used: Custom tuned by @phearable

Fuel used: Shell E85 / 93 Octane

Maintenance: Engine oil and filter changed every 3k miles. Brake fluid changed prior track days. Spark plugs changed every 10k miles. Transmission fluid changed every 2 months. Rotating tires with every engine oil change.

Additional engine mods: W1 Turbo, 3" MAperformance downpipe, 3" PRL frontpipe, 3" exhaust back with 3" Vibrant resonator, 27WON CAI, 27WON turbo inlet pipe, Mishimoto oil catch can, Mishimoto Intercooler, 27WON RMM, Clutchmasters FX350 Clutch, Hybrid short throw shifter, Hybrid shifter cable bushings, PRL Flex-Fuel Kit, Eibach Pro Springs, Acuity throttle pedal spacer.

Problems/issues: None

Driving style: It's 50/50 my daily mon-fri and track car on the weekends. Calm in the morning to work, spicy on my way home.

Tuning experience notes: First time tuning, it's pretty easier with Ktuner. I can't explain enough how great my custom tuning experience was with @phearable. Professional dude, knows his stuff and I know I am in good hands. Love my tune, changed my car completely for the better.


UPDATE: Added flex fuel and added new parts. @gtman. Also adding a maintenance aspect to the questionnaire if it helps.

Vehicle: 2020 Civic SI

Total tuned time: 6 months

Tuned miles driven: 6,500+

Tuning device(s) used: Ktuner V1.2 w/ Tunerview on headunit

Tunes used: Custom tuned by @phearable

Fuel used: Shell E85 / 93 Octane

Maintenance: Engine oil and filter changed every 3k miles. Brake fluid changed prior track days. Spark plugs changed every 10k miles. Transmission fluid changed every 2 months. Rotating tires with every engine oil change.

Additional engine mods: 3" MAperformance downpipe, 3" PRL frontpipe, 3" exhaust back with 3" Vibrant resonator, 27WON CAI, 27WON turbo inlet pipe, Mishimoto oil catch can, Mishimoto Intercooler, 27WON RMM, Clutchmasters FX350 Clutch, Hybrid short throw shifter, Hybrid shifter cable bushings, PRL Flex-Fuel Kit, Eibach Pro Springs, Acuity throttle pedal spacer.

Problems/issues: None

Driving style: It's 50/50 my daily mon-fri and track car on the weekends. Calm in the morning to work, spicy on my way home.

Tuning experience notes: First time tuning, it's pretty easier with Ktuner. I can't explain enough how great my custom tuning experience was with @phearable. Professional dude, knows his stuff and I know I am in good hands. Love my tune, changed my car completely for the better.
 

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Vehicle: 2017 Civic Sport Touring CVT Canadian
Bought as Certified PO at 12x,000Kms
Currently at 150k km @ 2021-04-13
started adding bolt-ons from ( began 2021-01 ~ end ongoing)

Total tuned time: 1 month (began 2021-03 ~ end ongoing)

Tuned miles driven: 1,000km @ 2021-04-13

Tuning device(s) used: Hondata CARB Flashpro

Tunes used: TSP Stage 1 Non-Si

Fuel used: Costco Premium (91)

Additional related mods:
Pipe, Front: PRL PRL-HC10-DP-FP;
Pipe, Down: PRL PRL-HC10-DPC;
Inter-cooler: PRL PRL-HC10-IC;
Intake: PWJDM PWCPC-FKX-T0C;

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Problems/issues: None w TSP

Driving style: Eco: Sport = 9 : 1

Tuning experience notes: Totally noob, like it so far. probably made some stupid changes myself with the hondata +6 map and had misfire, solved after flashing to TSP tune.
 

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Very bad. It should never get that high.

Possibly a bad batch of gas. What does k. control look like with the lower power tune?

BTW, knock count is basically meaningless. Unless you are seeing hundreds in a small time frame.
Switched back to the factory/21.5 tune and I’m hovering at .55, went up to .62 and as low as .49 on my commute (35 minute drive). I maybe spent 10/15 minutes in the 23.5 tune.

I’m using shell premium 91, should I be adding boosters to get higher?

is There already a thread with the best things to watch on the ktuner?

I.e k.con>1.0, IAT2>x, etc.
 
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Switched back to the factory/21.5 tune and I’m hovering at .55, went up to .62 and as low as .49 on my commute (35 minute drive). I maybe spent 10/15 minutes in the 23.5 tune.

I’m using shell premium 91, should I be adding boosters to get higher?

is There already a thread with the best things to watch on the ktuner?

I.e k.con>1.0, IAT2>x, etc.
A gallon of E85 would stabilize knock control.

Real time, I mostly monitor knock control, IAT 1&2, ECT 1&2, LTFT1 and STFT 1.
 

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Figure I'd make a post!

Vehicle: 2019 Civic Si Sedan

Total tuned time: 6 months

Tuned miles driven: 6,000+

Tuning device(s) used: KTuner V1.2

Tunes used: TSP Stage 1 (<1 month / 1k)
Phearable Stage 1.5 (>5 months / 5k)

Fuel used: BP 93 (exclusively)

Additional engine mods: 27Won CAI (Street MAF) + 27Won TIP

Problems/issues: None

Driving style: 80% tame / 20% aggresive

Tuning experience notes: I've used KTuner + basemaps on a previous vehicle, but this is my first tuned turbo vehicle. I must say that the OTS tunes from TSP and Phearable really wake the car up and still allow for seamless daily driving. I do like the on-the-fly map switching with ktuner any time that I want to mix things up. I will say that I prefer Phearable vs. TSP for more linear power delivery and better highway fuel efficiency. It's amazing how improved the engine feels with these mods+tune and still average 35+ MPGs with mixed driving!

Update!

I upgraded from the Phearable stage 1.5 tune to the Stage 1.5R tune on the day it came out (Feb 13th), so figure I'd give an update after 2 months with this tune.

Vehicle: 2019 Civic Si Sedan

Total tuned time: 10 months

Tuned miles driven: 10,000+

Tuning device(s) used: KTuner V1.2

Tunes used: TSP Stage 1 (1 month / 1k)
Phearable Stage 1.5 (7 months / 7k)
Phearable Stage 1.5R (2 months / 2k)

Fuel used: BP 93 (exclusively)

Additional engine mods: 27Won CAI (Street MAF), 27Won TIP, Mishimoto FMIC w/charge pipes, CTR retrofit clutch & flywheel, kzCMC

Problems/issues: None

Driving style: 80% tame / 20% aggresive

Tuning experience notes: Last 2 months with the Phearable 1.5R tune have been GREAT! I like the raised idle speed (800 RPM) since I have upgraded motor mounts (Perrin RMM inserts). The new 6800 redline RPM limit works, but I probably won't spend too much time up there! I've driven in each of the 3 maps for 2-3 weeks and I'll probably stick with Map 1 unless I really need the extra boost. Map 1 on this tune feels even more refined than Map 1 on the Stage 1.5 tune. It almost feels like an NA car with the way boost-by-gear is set up in 1st and 2nd gear. Tip my cap to Mr. Vega at Phearable for making another awesome OTS tune!
 
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Just a quick note on a stat I find interesting. A few months back both TSP and Phearable released upgrades to their OTS tunes.

Based on the numbers from this thread, only 5% of TSP users have upgraded to the 1+ version. 9% of Phearable users have upgraded to the R version. Seems low to me.

Of course there could be a few explanations. Maybe everybody's happy with their current tune ( especially TSP). Or maybe it's just that more Phearable users have updated their tune info in the thread.

Just a reminder, if you do switch tunes, don't forget to add a post reflecting that. Thanks.
 

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