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also double post. Figured out why it's so much, why the fuck is the factory flywheel 1.2k holy shit.

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Update:

Approx 2k since Hondata 93 tune.

Zero issues, daily driven.

Fuel economy is 28mpg city average if I drive it easy over a week. 19mpg if I don't. Will see 35-36mpg on the highway during a run.
 
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Perfect update thanks. I'll add the miles to the stats.
 

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Vehicle: 20 SI Coupe

Total tuned time: 3 years chipped, 8 months FBO

Total tuned mileage: 47k chipped, 14k FBO

Tuning device(s) used: Hondata FlashPro

Tunes used: Hondata +9 PSI, Phearable R

Mods: FBO minus exhaust. Suspension: Eibach (sportlines, f&r swaybars, rear strut brace), PLM subframe collars, K-series camber arms, H&R 20mm spacers, Motegi Traklite.

Problems/issues: 3rd gear lock-out, loose Swaybar, everyone wants to race me.

Driving style: Bipolar; either saving gas or gambling my license.
 
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A quick transmission observation.

The perception from a lot of people is that the CVT and the manual's stock clutch are garbage but the facts don't really show that.

Sure, there's been 7 CVT fails total (out of 383) for a 1.8% failure rate. Even with that, a couple were from admitted abuse like brake launching. And I went back and looked at how many people in the thread mentioned that their stock clutch was slipping. 71 of the 719 manual owners mentioned their clutch slipped occasionally (9.9%).

You have to put those numbers in context. Both the CVT and the clutch were designed for cars putting out stock power. We know tuned cars up the torque substantially. So to me, these numbers are actually fairly impressive all things considered.
 
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Update #4

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: 2017 Civic EX Hatchback

Total tuned time: 6 months, 29 days

Tuned miles driven: 82684 (~5,660 total)

Tuning device(s) used: Ktuner v1.2

Tunes used: Phearable 1.5

Fuel used: Shell 93

Additional related mods: No intake resonator

Problems/issues: Absolutely 0 issues in terms of the tune. I think my AC is dying though, last few drives its been super hot even after over 45 minutes of driving.

Driving style: Definitely a lot more calm than previously, been trying to save a little money wherever I can

Tuning experience notes: Struggled a little when installing, but other than that it has been super reliable w/out any issues.
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: 2017 Civic EX Hatchback

Total tuned time: ~16 months

Tuned miles driven: 13,000 (89,895 total)

Tuning device(s) used: Ktuner v1.2

Tunes used: Phearable 1.5

Fuel used: Shell 93

Additional related mods: No intake resonator, K&N box filter

Problems/issues:
Really weird surging when accelerating. The car will accelerate, decelerate for a bit, then accelerate again a couple of times before accelerating as it should. This only happens above ~75% throttle, and I'm planning to do a datalog soon to try and figure out what could be causing it. I'm sure it can't be gas quality or any mods since I haven't changed those at all. The only thing that has been changed was I had my CVT fluid replaced by a trusted shop and they used the same stuff that Honda uses. Plus, in any other scenario, this made the car run smoother (less jerky at low RPMs and quieter). This also only happens the first good pull of a drive, even when the engine is fully heated up properly (and not overheating yet).

Driving style: Even calmer still, my gas mileage has gone from averaging 28 -> 32. Starting to baby the car a lot more considering I'll be over 100k miles soon.

Tuning experience notes: Struggled a little when installing, but other than that it has been super reliable w/out any issues.

A bit unrelated, I also found that my car was probably in an unreported accident. Installed a new grill and very clearly saw that my entire front radiator was bent towards the engine, as if someone maybe ran into a pole. It still functions fine and there isn't too much damage to the fins and no leaks, but it's really concerning knowing that the dealership never mentioned this at all. I think they also replaced the front crash bar looked far newer than a lot of the other frame pieces. The front crash bar has a little triangle on it that I've only ever seen in the later years of civics, not on the 2017s.
 
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Always happy to see someone adding a new update post. That really helps. :thumbsup:

Post up a datalog when you can and I'll check it out.
 

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UPDATE: 06/11/2021: Going great so far!

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: 2017 Civic Sedan Touring - CVT

Total tuned time: 1 year, 4 months

Total tuned mileage: Around 50k miles? total mileage is 102.5k miles

Tuning device(s) used: KTuner V1.2

Tunes used: TSP Stage 1, Phearable 1.5 - Currently custom tuned by DRob.

Fuel used: Shell, Costco, Chevron (91 only)

Additional engine mods: PRL Cobra CAI w/RACE MAF, PRL Intercooler (Stock charge pipes), PRL Catted Downpipe.

Problems/issues: Had a minor leak coming from the transmission oil pan. Known about it for a couple months, but finally fixed it yesterday. It was caused by a broken oil pan bolt, leaving a very small gap between the tranny, gasket, and pan. I broke it the last time I replaced the CVT filter. I put too much torque on the bolt and snapped it. Luckily I didn’t have to drill the broken bolt off, I used a knife and slowly kept turning it until it came off. Replaced the filter and thankfully the oil color and magnets inside looked good. No weird colors or shavings.

Driving style: 80% highway and fairly fast but haven’t been too aggressive

Does anyone know of an aftermarket dip stick for the oil? The color on the OEM one makes it difficult to see the level. Anything I can do to the OEM one to make it easier to check the level?
UPDATE: 02/04/2023: Still going great so far!

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: 2017 Civic Sedan Touring - CVT

Total tuned time: About 3 years?

Total tuned mileage: Lost count (About 95k? maybe or more?), total mileage is 151k miles

Tuning device(s) used: KTuner V1.2

Tunes used: TSP Stage 1, Phearable 1.5, Custom tune by DRob - Currently in the process of getting custom tuned by Phearable

Fuel used: Shell, Costco, Chevron (91 only)

Additional engine mods: PRL Cobra CAI w/RACE MAF, PRL Intercooler (Stock charge pipes), PRL Catted Downpipe, CVT Cooler, 27WON TIP, VTT GC Turbo, ARP Head Studs (TSP)

Problems/issues
: Nothing bad yet, everything appears to be going fine.

Driving style: 80% highway and fairly fast and aggressive at times

Since the last update, I have installed ARP Head Studs, a CVT Cooler, 27WON TIP, and a VTT GC Turbo. Despite all the mileage, everything in the motor appeared to be okay, some normal wear but no damage or anything of concern. I am now using 5W-30 Oil. I am also in the process of getting tuned by Phearable and it's been amazing so far. Quick replies, very smooth power, and my fuel trims are on point. The car feels healthy and pulls pretty hard compared to the stock turbo, and it keeps pulling up top. The fuel quality here in Cali is pretty shit so I'm considering getting a flex-fuel kit, but that's still up in the air.
 
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Great update. :thumbsup: Awesome to see 45,000+ more problem free tuned miles. Looking forward to your impressions of the Phearable custom tune once all the revisions are completed. Nice mod list!
 

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No doubt. I mean my car has a bunch of cosmetic and handling mods but beyond a performance drop in, PRL intake hose and Phearable 1.5R, I have no other engine related mods. For me, it's enough and honestly, I love my car being "stock-ish but better".

That's the great thing about modding. Done right, it's all about creating YOUR perfect ride.

And it has to be mentioned there is some correlation between adding bolt ons and a higher failure rate. There's been 35 major failures in the thread. 31 were running bolt ons.
No doubt. I mean my car has a bunch of cosmetic and handling mods but beyond a performance drop in, PRL intake hose and Phearable 1.5R, I have no other engine related mods. For me, it's enough and honestly, I love my car being "stock-ish but better".

That's the great thing about modding. Done right, it's all about creating YOUR perfect ride.

And it has to be mentioned there is some correlation between adding bolt ons and a higher failure rate. There's been 35 major failures in the thread. 31 were running bolt ons.
I pretty much have the same mods as you, except I have an intercooler. I’m tempted to get a downpipe…kind of hesitant though, plus I have a hatch.
 


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Vehicle: 2018 Civic EX-L sedan

Total tuned time: ~1 month

Tuned miles driven: ~600 miles

Tuning device(s) used: KTuner V2

Tunes used: Phearable 1.5R

Fuel used: Shell V-Power (98 RON/94 Octane)

Additional related mods: PRL Cobra CAI, Street MAF

Problems/issues: Crack of vacuum line doing a pull on max boost but was a pretty quick and cheap fix cost me about $10

Driving style: Pretty chill but does a couple of pulls here and there

Tune experience notes: Made a dumb mistake of giving Phearable the wrong MAF housing but they fixed it and sent me a new tune. My ECU isnt supported for map switching thus im on map 3 all the time. I can still have a chill drive in drive mode, in sport mode the car can go fairly well especially when the boost hits. Overall, pretty satisfied. Would recommend to anyone who wants a little more power.
 
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A shout out to everyone who has added their tuned car to the thread. We've gathered some good info. Let's keep this going. :thumbsup:

Current thread stats, info and summary

General stats

Total tuned cars submitted: 1,103
Non-Si 504; Si 461; CTR 104; 2.0 NA 34
Sedan 544; Hatchback 369; Coupe 190
Manual transmission 719; CVT 384
Total tuned miles driven: 18,214,250
Most tuned miles driven: 139,000
Cars with over 25,000 tuned miles: 233

Failure stats
Cars with major drivetrain failures: 35 (3.2%)
Failures by model: Si 12; Non-Si 21; 2.0 NA 1; CTR 1
Failures by tune type: Base 12; OTS 9; Custom 14
Engine failures: Si 9; Non-Si 15; 2.0 NA 0; CTR 1
Transmission failures: CVT 7; Manual 3
Percentage of cars running reliably: 96.8%

Device stats
Hondata used for tuning: 247; Race (220) Carb (26)
KTuner used for tuning: 899; V1.2 (497) V2 (402)
Other devices used: JB4 4; RaceChip 6; Motec 4
Usage rate: KTuner 78%; Hondata 21%; Other 1%

Tune stats
Currently custom tuned cars: 237 (22%)
Currently OTS tuned cars: 539 (49%)
Currently base tuned cars: 327 (29%)
Most popular OTS tune: TSP Stage 1 (407)
Other popular OTS tune: Phearable 1.5 (226)
Newest tunes: Phearable 1.5R (89); TSP 1+ (67)

Fuel use stats
Most popular fuel used: 93 octane (570; 52%)
Users topping off with E85: 125 (11%)
Flex fuel kits installed: 140 (13%)

Bolt on stats
No bolt ons added: 299 (28%)
Bolt ons added (not FBO): 581 (52%)
Cars with full bolt ons: 223 (20%)

Related mod stats
Cold air intake installed: 509 (46%)
Short ram intake installed: 115 (11%)
Upgraded intercooler installed: 398 (36%)
Upgraded charge pipes: 135 (12%)
Aftermarket downpipe installed: 379 (34%)
Aftermarket frontpipe installed: 267 (24%)
Aftermarket exhaust installed: 343 (31%)

Upgraded RMM installed: 120 (11%)
Upgraded flywheel installed: 76 (10%)
Upgraded clutch installed: 150 (21%)
Upgraded CMC installed: 31 (4%)
Catch can installed: 68 (6%)
Oil or trans cooler installed: 33 (3%)

Upgraded radiator installed: 26 (2%)
Aftermarket BOV installed: 34 (3%)
Upgraded head studs installed: 25 (2%)
Upgraded turbo inlet pipe: 130 (12%)
Turbo blanket installed: 29 (3%)
Upgraded turbo installed: 118 (11%)
Cars with fully built engines: 14 (1%)


Stats Notes: The most popular bolt ons are intakes (57%), intercoolers, downpipes and exhaust systems. Full bolt ons (for purposes of this thread) consist of downpipe, frontpipe, intercooler and intake at a minimum. The total tuned miles driven stat is an estimate based on the info submitted by owners. The tune type stats are based on the owner's current tune. The drivetrain failures link in the stats takes you to a thread with additional information regarding the failures. Interestingly, while KTuner is used by the majority of 1.5T owners, Type R owners prefer Hondata by a wide margin.


Major Failures

1 car had a failed CVT (replaced under warranty).

1 car had a blown head gasket.

1 car blew a CVT pushing the car hard with an existing emissions problem.

1 car blew an engine running an E35/meth setup.

1 car blew an engine when the owner mistakenly used non-race gas with a tune designed specifically for race gas.

1 owner had major failures on a used car he purchased.

1 owner admitted he abused his car and destroyed his engine.

1 non-Si owner blew his engine on a Stage 2 Powermetric flex fuel tune w/full bolt ons.

1 owner had his CVT replaced under warranty (damaged by high power ethanol tune); the new CVT has been trouble free for 70,000+ tuned miles.

1 car threw a rod under "iffy" circumstances according to it's owner (possible abuse/user error).

1 owner destroyed his CVT after some track time in 100° weather.

1 car had a bent connecting rod but there were many factors (neglect) beyond the tune.

1 Si blew two OEM head gaskets (finally replaced with a better aftermarket gasket).

1 car bent a rod while doing WOT datalogging for a custom remote tune (had run meth for a short time as well).

1 car blew a CVT after serious neglect/abuse with numerous brake launches and burnouts.

1 Si blew a transmission running a high power flex fuel tune (full bolt ons).

1 car bent rods, had bearing material in the oil and CVT issues.

1 Si blew the head gasket and lifted the head after 14,000 aggressively driven tuned miles.

1 Type R had overheating issues; blew the head gasket and the top piston ring scored the cylinder wall; engine replaced.

1 car had a failed CVT running a base tune on a stock setup (likely factory defective; replaced under warranty).

1 car bent a rod after filling up with low octane gas (sold as high octane) in Egypt.

1 car bent a rod on a high output custom tune during a WOT pull.

1 car had a catastrophic engine failure when a tuner bumped up low end torque too far.

1 car (a 1.5T hatch) had an engine failure where octane booster possibly contributed.

1 hatch blew an engine after adding too much octane booster to the tank.

1 Si blew a head gasket running a high power flex fuel tune.

1 custom tuned 2.0NA had a CVT failure.

1 Si failed when the engine seized up due to a likely oil pump failure.

1 Non-Si engine was destroyed when the intake camshaft snapped possibly due to a defective oil pump.

1 hatchback bent a rod running a base tune with no bolt ons.

1 Si needed a transmission replacement due to a bearing failure (replaced under warranty).

1 Si had damaged engine bearings likely due to a failed oil pump.

1 car's engine had a spun rod bearing.

1 Si owner blew his transmission after admittedly beating on his car long term.

1 Si blew a head gasket on an OTS flex fuel tune.

Failure Notes: Only 4 cars have had major failures running no bolt-on setups. 1.5T Non-Si's in the thread have had the most major failures (15 engine; 6 CVT) and the highest failure rate (4.2%). It's important to note that 10 of the 12 Non-Si 1.5T rod failures (83%) occurred in hatchback models. The hatchback's weaker rods clearly skew the overall Non-Si failure rate stats.

Si's in the thread have had twelve major failures (9 engine; 3 transmission) for a 2.6% failure rate. Type R's currently have a 1% failure rate with one car having an engine failure. 2.0 NA's have a 2.9% failure rate with one major failure (a CVT). Failure rate by tune type - OTS: 1.7%; Base: 3.8%; Custom: 5.9%.

Lesser Issues: Issues have been reported here and there with the stock clutch (roughly 10% of owners have had slippage) and the CVT. There have been some injector replacements and occasional fuel trim and knock control funkiness (depending on intake and gas used). Five W1 aftermarket turbos have failed. None of these issues were catastrophic.

Observations: From the thread data so far, running a high output, custom ethanol tune with full bolt ons has the highest risk factor. An OTS tune, running 93 octane with no added bolt ons appears to be the safest setup. That's not to say adding bolt ons is unsafe but it does up the risk factor. Overall, issues seem to happen most often when power output is pushed too high, owners attempt to self-tune too aggressively, or there is some abuse, neglect or user error involved. Due to potential long term issues, I recommend avoiding octane boosters, aftermarket blow-off valves, Injen intakes and crackle tunes.

CVTs and Tuning: Some people say it's a waste to tune a 1.5T CVT Civic. The idea being that the CVT can't handle high power. The fact is, a higher power tuned CVT turbo Civic can be both reliable (limiting torque down low is key) and fun. In the thread, 71% of the Non-Si 1.5Ts are CVT.

Search: Use this post to find specific information in the thread quickly. It features direct links to many useful tuning related search terms.

Updates: It's important to add a new post from time to time. Use that new post to show additional tuned miles driven, changes to your tune or mod setup, any issues that occur and any new tuning experience notes. Update with a new post only. Don't edit and overwrite your original post.

Summary: There's no doubt that a tune is the single best power-based performance modification but tuning does add additional stress. Long term reliability can be compromised if you tune for ultimate power on stock internals or abuse your ride. Do proper and timely maintenance, use common sense and your tuning experience should go well. - gtman
 
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Vehicle: 2017 Civic Type R

Total tuned time: About 2 years

Tuned miles driven: ~ 20k miles, 58k overall

Tuning device(s) used: Hondata Flashpro (Race)

Tunes used: Hondata base 93 map, Hondata 98RON base tune for the European FK8

Fuel used: 98RON or 102RON

Additional related mods: Mishimoto Intake, Remus Cat-Back exhaust, Milltek catless downpipe, ARP Headstuds, Athena Headgasket

Problems/issues:
Rainwater goes through the hood scoop and stays on the cylinder head cover, leaking into 4th spark plug well.
Had a blown head gasket. 500 miles after the workshop installed the new head gasket, it seems that the gasket blew up again. Im currently working on it and will soon create a new thread about it and post an update here.

Driving style: Used as daily until 50k miles, now only driving the car in summer with good weather. Mostly normal driving with some aggressive bursts.

Tune experience notes: The Hondata 98RON calibration feels more aggressive compared to the base 93 map. Next i will go full bolt ons with custom tune.
 
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Thanks for adding your car. This is the first I've heard of the hood scoop rainwater leakage issue.
 

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Update 1: Switched from Hondata Carb to Ktuner V2 with Phearable OTS tune
Update 2: 8 month Phearable non-SI 1.5 tune use, oil analysis changes are in italics and underlined.
Update 3: Stopped using Costco 91 gas, see "Fuel used" for details. Minor updates on total miles driven and time since tuned.

Vehicle: 2017 Civic LX Hatchback

Total tuned time: 5.5 years

Tuned miles driven: 48,000

Tuning device(s) used: Hondata CARB Flashpro (4 years ) ; currently using KTuner V2 ( 14 months)

Tunes used: Previous - Hondata +6 Carb with custom tweaking by MakSpeed. Current - Phearable Non-Si Stage 1.5 street tune w/27Won intake option

Fuel used: Costco Premium 91 Octane UPDATE 01/20/2023: Might be a regional issue, but the quality of Costco 91 octane gas has been the shits lately. knock control is spiking in the .70 - .9 range where it used to be .49 - .55. Gas mileage has dropped significantly, much more than the usual 5% winter blend drop. Performance also felt sluggish, on par with having the "eco" button engaged. Switched to Shell premium, along with 1.25 gallons of E85 per 10 gallons of premium. This has brought the performance and gas milage back to where it generally should be. The issue with the poor quality Costco premium gas has also been noted by a few other friends with tuned cars in the San Diego area.

Additional related mods: 27Won CAI hybrid, Prodrager cat back exhaust

Problems/issues: None ( mechanical or tune related )
* minor issues - ( for me ) There is a learning curve when it came to installing and running the KTuner. The Flashpro Carb software was intuitive for a novice, easy to install, and easy to use Bluetooth gauge display and having the cable to the flashpro module routed in a unobtrusive manner. The Ktuner software is a bit more complicated to figure out, and finding a place for the V2 module is a challenge to have a clean looking installation without exposed cable.

Driving style: current - Daily Driver with 80% going for part throttle economy (41.5 mpg average summer blend, 39.5mpg winter blend) remaining 20% off road & canyon carving


Misc Comments: Was pretty happy with the Flashpro Carb tune as a daily driver, biggest drawback was only 1 tune can be used at any given time. Was intrigued by the Phearable / KTuner's ability to "switch on the fly" change of tunes.
Update: Slight drop in overall mpg since the switch to using the KTuner over the Hondata, roughly 1 mpg penalty with everything else being equal, In return, a more useable powerband is available with the Ktuner / Phearable tune. Continue to be impressed with how well the KTuner / Phearable tune works with keeping LTFT within + 0 / -2 and STFT within + 5/ - 5 during drives.
Good evening! I have similar mods with my 17' Touring and now recently the Hondata Flash pro and cat back delete. Today I inadvertently tested my gas mileage range. I ran 382 miles, and passed up several gas stations on my road trip back home. I was 60 miles from home when my Fuel light came on. I knew there was a gas station 32 miles away, so I wasn't worried..until I rolled up on it and it was closed. At 32 miles to go, I had a bar and a half left on the gage. When I finally coasted on fumes to the station, I had half a bar remaining...you talking about a scared mofo lol! My 91 CRX and 95 Integra could drive 50+ miles on E, so why not my 17' Civic? We she did it, mods and all! If someone was there to follow me, I believe I could have gotten 5 more miles, but not trying to test the theory anytime soon😅
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