The Tuned Civic X Reliability Survey

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Vehicle: 2017 civic type R

Total tuned time: 2years

Total tuned mileage: 4000miles

Tuning device(s) used: KTuner V1.5

Tunes used: stage1 catless tune for 1year/dyno tune in 2019(2times)

Additional engine mods: prl hvi,prl intercooler,dreamautomotive catless dp,prl frontpipe,watermeth injection,tuned on 91octane 350whp/372wtq sae

Problems/issues: None / uncontrollable laughing disorder when behind the wheel :),3-4 gears is crazy in the head,no traction at all in 3gears all outside temps ,funfunfun

Driving style:like a turtle :)

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Vehicle: 2018 Civic Hatchback Sport CVT (Stock)

Total tuned time: 1 month

Total tuned mileage: 1,000 miles

Tuning device(s) used: KTuner v1.2

Tunes used: Ktuner's: Stage 1, and Starter 21 (conservative)

Fuel used: Conoco 93

Additional engine mods: None

Problems/issues: None

Driving style: Typically conservative, just driving to work. But lately having fun seeing how fast it can accelerate to pass cars or to get onto the highway. I'm never going full throttle from stop. Looking to have performance, decent mileage, and have the car last me 10 years.

Tuning experience notes:
This is my first time tuning. gtman and others on the forums have given me confidence to give it a try. My previous cars were an accord (no turbo), and CRV (no turbo). This is my first car with a turbo engine. At stock, I thought it was already a fun car. I would sometimes put the car into the "S" gear, or use the paddle shifter to get more acceleration when passing.

Then I came across this world of tuning. I thought that it was for those that ONLY want to mod and race cars, but I feel like there's other folks on this forum like me - just looking to get more performance out of what they have. Giving tuning a try and WOW - it makes it that much more fun. I feel like a lot of folks here are using "TSP Stage 1" tune which I'm sure is great, but honestly I thought even starting with Ktuner Stage 1 made so much of a difference. Now I am trying Starter 21 with various configurations, but usually driving on a conservative but improved, non aggressive configuration.

I'm starting to learn the technical aspects of everything, but can share at least what I experience now. The biggest differences I "experience" is that when you hit the throttle, the car just goes, and it goes fast. Before tuning, at stock, it would sort of like take a second before the acceleration kicked in. I've also noticed a drop in miles per gallon, likely because I've been having more fun than usual and it is getting colder (winter). I usually got 36 to 40mpg on stock, and now I am seeing around 32 to 36pmg.

When winter passes and it gets warmer, I will try a little bit more aggressive configurations on Starter 21. The only physical change I'll likely make to the car is get better tires when the stock ones wear out. I already 'slip' a little bit when accelerating from stop, even on stock.
 

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Vehicle: 2017 Civic Si

Total tuned time: 25+ months

Total tuned mileage: 20,000+ miles

Tuning device(s) used: currently using KTuner V2

Tunes used: Ktuner basemap for about 500 miles first, then vitviper stage 2 for 15k miles. Currently on TSP stage 2 for the past 7k miles

Fuel used: Shell 91, propel fuels flex fuel

Additional engine mods: PRL intercooler W/charge pipes, PRL race Intake, PRL downpipe and frontpipe V1, PRL flex fuel kit, 27won drop in turbo(currently getting installed). Emans type R retrofitted clutch

Problems/issues: Clutch started slipped at 15k miles after vit stage 2, switched to Emans and no more slippage.
Otherwise she’s still going strong.

edit: 27won turbo cracked and it’s less than a year old. Going to make the switch over to PRL and report back with pictures after it’s pulled out. Abuse did play a factor as I went out for a cinco de mayo cruise which resulted on the car being driven hard half a day with a couple of out stops.

Driving style: I’m a young guy, 23, and have a lead foot and it’s hard not to step on it. I do race her quite often and surprisingly no major problems so far.

Tuning experience notes: This is my first vehicle in which I get tuned and modified and so far I’ve been careful with who I get my tunes, I was using TSP stage 2 when it first came out and the car really had a punch at low rpm. Then Drob released an update which had nerfed the tune a bit because apperantly it was too much torque for the stock motor.
Anyways right now my car is at the shop currently getting the 27won turbo installed and I already have a custom tune in order from Drob. I’ll report back any issues once I put more mileage with this setup
 
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Vehicle: 2017 Civic Hatchback Sport Touring

Total tuned time: 22 months on Ktuner (4 months on custom tune from Derek Robinson @ IMW Motorworks

Total tuned mileage: 42,000+ miles (10,000 miles+ on custom tune)

Tuning device(s) used: KTuner V2

Tunes used: KTuner Dual 21 PSI, Custom Tune (93 pump and E85)

Fuel used: Shell 93 (Flex Fuel E85 from Shell)

Additional engine mods: Full Bolt Ons, 27WON W1Turbo

Problems/issues: Minor issue. WOT pulls can result in kicking in overboost protection (probably due to fact that I got it tuned on a very hot and humid day. P0103 and P0238. P0103 is due to the fact that I have reached the limits on my 27WON CAI. I will be upgrading to the PRL Cobra Race CAI to alleviate this issue. Also the P0238 cannot be resolved currently with the current MAP sensor and will require to upgrade to a 4bar MAP sensor and ECU support for it.

Driving style: Slightly speedy with occasional bursts from time to time.

Tuning experience notes: I will say that the car is a blast to drive. Mind you I have both an EX sedan with the 2.0 non turbo and I drive that a bit more nowadays to preserve miles and then drive my tuned hatch for some fun times. I have taken this car out to several drag and track days. While I have lost a bit of low-end torque (this has resulted in an experience in which the car does not seem as if it as peppy down low as when I was on the stock turbo), when I'm at 3500k rpm and higher, I can really feel the boost ramp in and it gives a very nice punch. Due to the way the tune is set up to save my CVT and engine, it almost feels like VTEC when the car hits 4k.

292.82 whp / 257.27 wtq on E35 blend

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Vehicle: 2017 Civic EX-T sedan CVT

Total tuned time: 6 months +-

Total tuned mileage: 15000+- miles

Tuning device(s) used: KTuner 1.2

Tunes used: KTuner dual target tune with various quick adjustment changes for map switching

Fuel used: Mostly Chevron/Shell 93 since tuning

Additional engine mods: none yet.

Problems/issues: None with the engine, had a BCM give out after about 18 months of ownership. Completely unrelated but a nightmare to deal with.

Driving style: I like to get the most out of my car, without getting real close to other cars although weaving through traffic isn't exactly uncommon. Stereotype Civic driver is what I get told I drive like a lot.

Tuning experience notes: So far I really have nothing but good experience with it, I'm constantly tweaking every time I reflash and datalog to see what's going on from time to time. I understand the CVT limitations and really just try to have as much fun as possible within them. I've been honestly surprised at how well the car performs when pushed and I'm waiting til the end of this month to give the TSP tune a go and see how it feels by comparison. The 93 life was a little bit of a shock to the wallet at first but it just feels like normal at this point.
 

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Vehicle: 2017 Civic Type R

Total tuned time: 22 months

Total tuned mileage: 28,000+ miles

Tuning device(s) used: Hondata Flashpro and previously KTuner V2

Tunes used: Hondata Flashpro calibration for PRL catless downpipe and front pipe

Fuel used: 93 Octane

Additional engine mods: PRL silicone hose, HKX Legamax, RV6 catless downpipe and front pipe

Problems/issues: None

Driving style: Usually calm, but I go fast at times

Tuning experience notes: I've had hondata for previous civics (EP3, FA5, FB6). Also have had ktuner for the FK8, but ended up back with hondata due to more options

I'm seeing 12.2 A/F ratio from data logs
 

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sure wish this would include people's MPGS before/after tune.
 

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sure wish this would include people's MPGS before/after tune.
My day to day are more affected by my right foot than anything. My average mpg since tuning has changed minimally if at all
 
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sure wish this would include people's MPGS before/after tune.
There's really no reason for that. As has been mentioned for years, part throttle and highway cruising mpgs stay very close to stock. It's only when you really drive aggressively that mpgs drop. Matter of fact, in nearly two years of being tuned, my mileage has only dropped from about 38 stock to 36.5 tuned (60/40 highway/city). And that's only due to me putting my foot into it more often since I've been tuned.
 
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sure wish this would include people's MPGS before/after tune.
As a few others have said, its unnecessary. As MPG do not change afterward. Or it's such a minuscule change that its unnoticeable.
 

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As a few others have said, its unnecessary. As MPG do not change afterward. Or it's such a minuscule change that its unnoticeable.
I'm going to tune for mpg I just saw a YouTube of a Corvette getting 40 mpg. I wonder what this could do with a good mpg tune and some eco mod
 
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Vehicle: 2019 Civic Type R

Total tuned time: 4 months

Total tuned mileage: 5000 miles

Tuning device(s) used: New Contact Lens, Expresso, More Fish than Steak

Tunes used: Zen like focus just before Holy Crap Speed

Fuel used: Shell Premium only

Additional engine mods: Bell bottom jeans

Problems/issues: Noticed a thumping sound coming from passengers floorboard when my wife is trying to find "her" brake pedal when she thinks I am entering corners too fast. Sometimes my neck hurts after a run through the mountain roads with high G turns. Almost pissed my pants once when I misjudged a decreasing radius corner. Had to pull over after my first mountain curvy road run and wipe tears from my eyes. Colorful language follows WOT third gear plus pulls.

Driving style: Usually calm, but if you pass me as we approach the mountains I'm going to make you look stupid in the first turn and be out of sight 3 turns later.

Tuning experience notes: Scares the hell out of me because I'm a total noob. Retired Professional motorcycle roadracer with 107 wins, 11 championships and 63 crashes. As soon as I master the car as is, I will slowly start souping it up.

Note: Don't count me in your stats as I know this thread is about tuning but after reading every post to try to learn as much as possible I felt left out so I figured...........well............the above is the result.
 
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Note: Don't count me in your stats as I know this thread is about tuning but after reading every post to try to learn as much as possible I felt left out so I figured...........well............the above is the result.
Nice to have another R posting. And thanks for a little bit of tongue in cheek humor.:thumbsup:

One question. Are the 63 crashes real or just part of the joke?:hmm:
 

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Nice to have another R posting. And thanks for a little bit of tongue in cheek humor.:thumbsup:

One question. Are the 63 crashes real or just part of the joke?:hmm:
Real. I absolutely hated second place. Never cared about taking a risk to pass for like 7th. But if we are on the last lap, and I'm in a possible position to win......................

Besides, you cannot, will not, find the maximum until you exceed it.
 

                           

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