The Infamous 2nd Gear Crunch

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what is the 2nd gear crunch? i have had my 2019 type R for a month now and never had the problem
 

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No grinds here but a bit of notchiness here and there and occasional lockout going into reverse.
Quick question about checking play: can I just push on my clutch pedal by hand to check for play instead of the cmc rod itself? I think my system is good but it doesn’t hurt to verify....
Also.... has anyone checked what the service manual says about all these adjustments?
tia folks
 

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what is the 2nd gear crunch? i have had my 2019 type R for a month now and never had the problem
It's a grind a lot of folks get when shifting from 1st to 2nd especially when shifting fast. A lot of folks also get locked out of 4th on the downshift.
 

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I can confirm grind still exists on 2020 from 1-2nd and 4th lockout.
Adjust your CMC rod. A week and a 1000 mile roadtrip with fast 1-2 onramp pulls later, my grind is totally gone. I did get a 4th lockout for the first time ever, but I also think I tried to shift before the clutch was fully in.
 

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i wonder why i have not gotten this? im only at 3,800 miles now
 

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i wonder why i have not gotten this? im only at 3,800 miles now
Honestly, there are a lot of variables involved. CNC for example, variation between models, even driver and how he/she shifts. For example, I've found that it's much more likely to occur if I'm banging gears and trying to push hard in my car.
 

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Honestly, there are a lot of variables involved. CNC for example, variation between models, even driver and how he/she shifts. For example, I've found that it's much more likely to occur if I'm banging gears and trying to push hard in my car.
My #1 condition for 1-2 crunches is when short-shifting while going uphill and everything not fully warmed up. There's a stoplight near my house, part of my daily commute, where it most often occurs. (CMC adjusted, full Acuity shifter goodies, Amsoil mtf.)
 

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Automobile Mag complained about the grind in their 2020 article as well. I can hope that some more press will force a TSB. Right? Maybe
 

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Automobile Mag complained about the grind in their 2020 article as well. I can hope that some more press will force a TSB. Right? Maybe
Oh wow, thanks for pointing that out. Glad they made a point to mention it.

Here's what they say:

The manual transmission is still a zen garden for shifting, but there is an odd trait that from time to time produces a grind when shifting into second gear, either up from first or down from third. This occurred three times during our test, with the clutch depressed fully, in both high-performance and relaxed-driving situations. Some of the Automobile staff also noted a similar phenomenon in previous Civic Type R test cars, and it has been mentioned by other outlets as well.

https://www.automobilemag.com/news/...ice-specifications-performance-features-0-60/
 

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Oh wow, thanks for pointing that out. Glad they made a point to mention it.

Here's what they say:
If you watch Alex on Auto's 2020 Type R review, at about 19 minutes in, you can definitely hear what sounds like a grind when he shifts into 2nd. He didn't seem to point it out when it happened.
 

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This was the main reason I traded in my 17CTR. It was annoying and getting ridiculous. It's like the clutch get stuck not fulling depressing! So far i have not experience this on my 2020 trying to shift faster to replicate this problem. Perhaps looking what part they changed and hopefully a cheap fix. Or this maybe this is a who got lucky issue? Probably good idea to wait it out for owner to confirm.
 

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