17CivicTypeR_Brian
Aiming for 400whp out of the TypeR.
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Good day guys,
Not sure if anyone has written about their experience in a Hatchback 6MT yet so here is what I have to say. This is my perspective coming from an 09 Si with HFP suspension, IHE, tuned on E85 to 227hp. I also have retrofitted my low and high beams with Mini H1 7.0, my foglights with Matchbox 2.0, 5500K bulbs, and all 6 High beam solenoids in the projectors are functional.
I stopped in the dealer of my choice Jones in Lancaster PA yesterday evening. I've worked with Jon Foder there on a few purchases either for myself or friends, so we know each other well.
I only stopped in to say 'hi' when he says 'Do you want to drive the MT?' I was like hmm... ok let's do it!
It was a dark silver with black splitters/side skirts etc. I have to say it looked sharp! On approach, it still used a physical key to unlock and start the engine, but I suppose that's just what you get with the MT.
Backing it out, the camera was good, the screen was small. I didn't even turn on the audio for the whole drive - I was just there to listen to the car and the sounds it made. Jon jumped in and we were off.
I'm a guy that really likes to let the engine warm up properly before asking too much out of the car, so we took a short drive that required little acceleration - just up to 35 or so. I got in some washboard roads as well as a very long left-hander. Then, I got some highway traffic. After that, some backroads followed by another open shot on the highway back to the dealer. About 20 minutes of seat time.
Here's what I discovered about it-
Steering is proper with appropriate feedback. It does not take much wheel input to maneuver. It turns in quickly and flatly.
Brakes are ample. I could see them not feeling so great once the rotors have some heat in them and start to lose their new surface finish, but in new form they feel great!
Acceleration is excellent. There is some turbo lag below 3000 rpm but once power comes on, it pulls hard! Highway 6th gear pulls nicely - probably better than my Si. Low speed is pretty flat, but that's probably a good thing in parking lots etc.
Suspension is stupendous. I would say it is definitely better than my stock Si suspension but not as good as my HFP suspension. It holds the car nice and flat and absorbs road imperfections very nicely.
The clutch is super light compared to my Si and that's saying a lot considering I thought the Si had a light clutch. First is easy to work but I don't have any idea if the car can launch. The remainder of the gears are easy to release into.
The transmission seems to have appropriate gear ranges. No idea how fast you can go in each gear. I had it up to about 90 in 4th and I think I still had some more gear left. The shifter is short and a little soft, but I never wondered about the gears or couldn't find them.
Rear visibility is as you'd anticipate I think. Not great but good enough. I drove an MDX often - not as good as that, but also more maneuverable so that makes up for it.
Headlights were terrible. No other way to put it. I had them 'on' and the fog lights as well and I found it easy to outdrive the light without really speeding honestly. Again, I'm used to MDX LED's and my own upgraded lighting system, so I shouldn't have expected to be impressed.
Road noise was not bad. It's an economy car so it had more noise than a 7 series BMW (more than the MDX also) but less than my Si. Then again, it's on whatever the stock tires are and that makes a tremendous difference.
Exhaust was audible but would never interrupt a phone call or anything else. Super quiet when not under load.
Engine/intake noise was not noticeable or discernible.
Brake hold/electronic park brake were both nice. I liked not having to hold my foot on the brake or set the park brake on slight inclines. Great for those of us that don't live in flat places.
Seating was nice. It didn't have quite the Si level of capture, but it wasn't far off.
I didn't play with electronics.
cliffnotes: Surprisingly fast, quiet, great handling. Really a huge leap above any non-Si Civic I've ever driven.
Not sure if anyone has written about their experience in a Hatchback 6MT yet so here is what I have to say. This is my perspective coming from an 09 Si with HFP suspension, IHE, tuned on E85 to 227hp. I also have retrofitted my low and high beams with Mini H1 7.0, my foglights with Matchbox 2.0, 5500K bulbs, and all 6 High beam solenoids in the projectors are functional.
I stopped in the dealer of my choice Jones in Lancaster PA yesterday evening. I've worked with Jon Foder there on a few purchases either for myself or friends, so we know each other well.
I only stopped in to say 'hi' when he says 'Do you want to drive the MT?' I was like hmm... ok let's do it!
It was a dark silver with black splitters/side skirts etc. I have to say it looked sharp! On approach, it still used a physical key to unlock and start the engine, but I suppose that's just what you get with the MT.
Backing it out, the camera was good, the screen was small. I didn't even turn on the audio for the whole drive - I was just there to listen to the car and the sounds it made. Jon jumped in and we were off.
I'm a guy that really likes to let the engine warm up properly before asking too much out of the car, so we took a short drive that required little acceleration - just up to 35 or so. I got in some washboard roads as well as a very long left-hander. Then, I got some highway traffic. After that, some backroads followed by another open shot on the highway back to the dealer. About 20 minutes of seat time.
Here's what I discovered about it-
Steering is proper with appropriate feedback. It does not take much wheel input to maneuver. It turns in quickly and flatly.
Brakes are ample. I could see them not feeling so great once the rotors have some heat in them and start to lose their new surface finish, but in new form they feel great!
Acceleration is excellent. There is some turbo lag below 3000 rpm but once power comes on, it pulls hard! Highway 6th gear pulls nicely - probably better than my Si. Low speed is pretty flat, but that's probably a good thing in parking lots etc.
Suspension is stupendous. I would say it is definitely better than my stock Si suspension but not as good as my HFP suspension. It holds the car nice and flat and absorbs road imperfections very nicely.
The clutch is super light compared to my Si and that's saying a lot considering I thought the Si had a light clutch. First is easy to work but I don't have any idea if the car can launch. The remainder of the gears are easy to release into.
The transmission seems to have appropriate gear ranges. No idea how fast you can go in each gear. I had it up to about 90 in 4th and I think I still had some more gear left. The shifter is short and a little soft, but I never wondered about the gears or couldn't find them.
Rear visibility is as you'd anticipate I think. Not great but good enough. I drove an MDX often - not as good as that, but also more maneuverable so that makes up for it.
Headlights were terrible. No other way to put it. I had them 'on' and the fog lights as well and I found it easy to outdrive the light without really speeding honestly. Again, I'm used to MDX LED's and my own upgraded lighting system, so I shouldn't have expected to be impressed.
Road noise was not bad. It's an economy car so it had more noise than a 7 series BMW (more than the MDX also) but less than my Si. Then again, it's on whatever the stock tires are and that makes a tremendous difference.
Exhaust was audible but would never interrupt a phone call or anything else. Super quiet when not under load.
Engine/intake noise was not noticeable or discernible.
Brake hold/electronic park brake were both nice. I liked not having to hold my foot on the brake or set the park brake on slight inclines. Great for those of us that don't live in flat places.
Seating was nice. It didn't have quite the Si level of capture, but it wasn't far off.
I didn't play with electronics.
cliffnotes: Surprisingly fast, quiet, great handling. Really a huge leap above any non-Si Civic I've ever driven.
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